equity. I mean you guys were kind of a player in all of this. What are some of the lessons that you took away and maybe like what was the best deal you did and then what were some of the the things that you wish you hadn't done? No, I think you know when the the what's called the DAT the treasury companies you know people started saying hey listen which started with you know sailor and micro strategy and they said listen instead of buying bitcoin let's buy a leveraged way to play it and then you know with the you know new aged around per uh perpetual preferred you have an ability to get a levered return on bitcoin through some of these dats
No, I think you know when the the what's called the DAT the treasury companies you know people started saying hey listen which started with you know sailor and micro strategy and they said listen instead of buying bitcoin let's buy a leveraged way to play it and then you know with the you know new aged around per uh perpetual preferred you have an ability to get a levered return on bitcoin through some of these dats