And it's not that the products are bad or the people at Rivian are incompetent or they're not working hard. It's just the business is a tough business. The EV business in automotive is a tough business. So how can we hold these realities? So we say, look how amazing these Chinese EV companies are and look how bad the home team is. It's just because the home team is being assessed for being a business. It has to make profits. And because it doesn't, it gets hammered by public investors. The other thing is not even a company. Now, if we do it apples to apples, America just has to build great EVs. That means Tesla and everybody else combined and we don't care about profits, I think America would field some very good products and there would be wow products. So the comparisons are really, really off and I think that creates a misunderstanding.
That means Tesla and everybody else combined and we don't care about profits, I think America would field some very good products and there would be wow products.