Jack Mallers

Hold Onto Your Butts (And Your Bitcoin)

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1:55:45 min youtube 2026 Week 23 🇬🇧 EN

Summary

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvaOSzpcVag  |  Duration: 115 min

â—† Global Economic Instability and the Need for Bitcoin

The host argues that current market volatility is severely mispriced, driven by critical geopolitical factors (Strait of Hormuz, conflicts) and unsustainable global debt. The primary threat is the energy shock; since modern life is energy-dependent, oil price spikes cause massive ripple effects on inflation.

While nominal economic growth appears strong, it must be viewed in real terms due to fiat debasement. Nominal US spending is increasing, but real consumer purchasing power is sharply declining because of high energy costs and inflation. The post-1971 fiat dollar is fundamentally unstable as its value erodes when adjusted for real purchasing power.

⚠️ Critical Risk Alert: High oil prices are driving significant economic volatility, which destabilizes the highly leveraged US government bond market. As investor confidence drops and inflation fears rise, demand for bonds decreases, causing yields to soar—signaling deep fiscal instability within traditional finance.

â–¶ Monetary Policy, Inflation, and the Bitcoin Imperative

The speaker asserts that commercializing energy is vital for prosperity. He details three primary stealth liquidity channels propping up markets: the Fed's reserve management purchases, efforts to weaken the dollar to support reshoring, and short-end treasury issuance manipulation.

These government actions imply significant inflation because fiat currency supply grows faster than goods production. Historical CPI data confirms massive inflation waves coinciding with monetary policy changes (like severing gold backing). Therefore, high inflation is baked in as the dollar's supply expands rapidly against finite resources like Bitcoin.

The US economy is expected to run hot with high inflation, leading to poor consumer sentiment. Hyperfinancialization has created a massive wealth gap by prioritizing speculative trading over productive human labor. Markets are at a critical crossroads: Bitcoin's ability to break through the 80,000 level will determine if a full bullish business cycle returns.

  • Action Recommendation: Maintain unwavering conviction in stacking sats because Bitcoin protects labor from fiat devaluation.
  • Strategic Insight: During crises, Bitcoin is superior to gold because it is more divisible, verifiable, and transportable.

★ Building the Bitcoin Economy with Strike

The current fiat system is deemed untenable due to inflation and debasement. The speaker strongly critiques prediction markets, calling them "Las Vegas in new clothes," arguing that true financial freedom does not come from betting on speculative assets.

Strike is positioned as the global Bitcoin bank, enabling users to manage finances and pay bills using a Bitcoin-backed line of credit. This product allows customers to stack Bitcoin without being forced to sell their holdings.

Company Milestones & Financial Strength

Asset/Entity Role Thesis/Status
Strike Global Bitcoin Bank/Financial Services Platform Expanding offerings (brokerage, banking, lending) across over 40 states.
Tether Credit Provider/Potential Merger Partner Secured a massive $2.1 billion credit facility to finance Strike's global growth.

â–º Integrated Strategy, Products, and Philosophy

Multi-Pillar Business Strategy

The company's strategy moves beyond simple asset stacking into an integrated model comprising four pillars:

  • Financial Services: Offering comprehensive banking and lending.
  • Physical Bitcoin Infrastructure: Including mining operations and securing power contracts.
  • Capital Markets Operations: Engaging in high-level market activities.
  • Strategic M&A: Consolidating industry efforts to raise cheap capital and leverage Bitcoin holdings.

Product Deep Dive & Market Philosophy

The Bitcoin Line of Credit works by charging interest only when funds are actually drawn or used for payments. While Strike excels in Bitcoin functionality, the speaker noted hesitation regarding a tap-to-pay debit card due to established banks offering better fiat rewards.

💡 Key Takeaway on Fiat vs. Bitcoin: The speaker argues that fiat currency forces people into unproductive speculative trading just to beat inflation, whereas Bitcoin saves time and energy for individuals by removing the necessity of constant financial speculation.

Internally, there is discussion about implementing a premium subscription tier, such as a "Strike Black" account, to fund future development. The speaker also reflected on the importance of being authentic online despite facing criticism.

â—† Search for the alpha

The core thesis visible in capital allocation is a strategic pivot from simple asset stacking to building integrated financial infrastructure within the Bitcoin ecosystem. The guest's positioning centers on creating utility and services—a "Bitcoin bank"—to allow users to manage fiat-derived economic pain (inflation/debt) while accumulating BTC, effectively monetizing the systemic instability of legacy finance rather than merely hedging against it.

  • The primary capital deployment is focused on building a multi-pillar Bitcoin company structure: financial services, physical infrastructure (mining/power), and capital markets operations, moving beyond passive holding.
  • Strategic partnerships are being leveraged to de-risk growth; the securing of a $2.1 billion credit facility from Tether signals confidence in using stablecoin liquidity to scale BTC-native financial products globally.
  • The operational focus is on creating non-speculative capital deployment tools, such as volatility-proof loans and Bitcoin Lines of Credit, which allow users to access necessary liquidity without the risk of forced liquidation inherent in traditional leverage.
  • A thematic avoidance exists against highly speculative, unproductive financial instruments (e.g., prediction markets), viewing them as disguised gambling rather than genuine wealth creation or survival mechanisms.
  • The critical regime change catalyst is the energy shock and resulting sustained high crude prices, which are driving fiat currency debasement and destabilizing government bond yields—a condition that necessitates a non-fiat store of value.
Asset Signal Reading
Bitcoin (BTC) Conviction/Catalyst Must break 80,000 level to validate a full bullish business cycle; failure predicts central planning intervention.
Tether ($USDT) Financial Partner Provided $2.1 billion credit facility to finance Strike's global scaling and operations.
The twist: While the guest frequently critiques fiat currency as forcing people into unproductive speculation, their own business model is fundamentally a highly sophisticated financial product designed to manage and monetize that very instability. The implicit message is that true alpha lies not in predicting market crashes, but in building the necessary infrastructure (the "Bitcoin bank") that allows capital to flow efficiently during systemic crises.

â–º Chapter Summaries

Part 1 (0:00)

The host advises holding onto Bitcoin because he believes current market volatility is severely mispriced. He dismisses political rhetoric, focusing instead on critical geopolitical questions regarding the Strait of Hormuz, ongoing conflicts, supply chain disruptions, and global debt sustainability. A major concern is the energy shock, as everything in modern life is a derivative of energy, meaning oil price spikes have massive ripple effects on inflation. Oil futures contracts are signaling sustained high crude prices, which is driving gas prices up rapidly. While nominal economic growth appears strong, he warns that this must be viewed in real terms due to fiat currency debasement. He concludes that Bitcoin serves as a necessary solution to the systemic problems within the legacy finance system.

Part 2 (15:00)

Nominal US spending is increasing but real consumer purchasing power is sharply declining due to inflation and high energy costs, forcing consumers to dip into savings for basic necessities. The speaker argues that the post-1971 fiat dollar is fundamentally unstable because its value erodes when adjusted for real purchasing power. High oil prices are driving significant economic volatility, which in turn destabilizes the highly leveraged US government bond market. As investors lose confidence and inflation fears rise, demand for bonds decreases, causing yields to soar. This combination of energy shocks and rising interest rates signals deep fiscal instability within the traditional financial system. The speaker suggests that this systemic failure highlights why Bitcoin is positioned as a necessary alternative store of value.

Part 3 (30:00)

The speaker argues that commercializing energy is vital for prosperity, noting that politicians claiming consumption is bad are often short on energy themselves. He details three primary stealth liquidity channels propping up markets: the Fed's reserve management purchases, efforts to weaken the dollar to support reshoring, and short-end treasury issuance manipulation. These government actions imply significant inflation because fiat currency supply grows faster than goods production. The oil shock is expected to cause volatility, forcing financial markets to choose between a crash or continued stimulus-driven growth. Historical CPI data shows massive inflation waves coinciding with monetary policy changes like severing gold backing. Therefore, the speaker concludes that high inflation is baked in as the dollar's supply expands rapidly against finite resources like Bitcoin.

Part 4 (45:00)

The speaker notes that the US economy is expected to run hot with high inflation, leading to historically poor consumer sentiment and financial pain for the average American. He argues that hyperfinancialization has created a massive wealth gap by prioritizing speculative trading over productive human labor. Markets are at a critical crossroads, where Bitcoin's ability to break through the 80,000 level will determine if a full bullish business cycle returns. If Bitcoin fails to rise significantly, the speaker predicts central planning intervention and further money printing due to the US inability to sustain a prolonged recession. He maintains unwavering conviction in stacking sats because Bitcoin protects his labor from devaluation by fiat currency. Ultimately, he asserts that during crises, Bitcoin is superior to gold because it is more divisible, verifiable, and transportable.

Part 5 (60:00)

The speaker argues that the current fiat system is untenable due to inflation, political instability, and currency debasement. He launches a strong critique of prediction markets, calling them "Las Vegas in new clothes" because they are essentially disguised sports gambling where most users lose money. He asserts that true financial freedom does not come from betting on speculative assets like meme coins or prediction market outcomes. The speaker emphasizes that people forced to use fiat currency are inherently speculators just to survive. In company updates, he describes Strike as the global Bitcoin bank, allowing users to manage finances and pay bills using a Bitcoin-backed line of credit. This product enables customers to stack Bitcoin without being forced to sell their holdings.

Part 6 (75:00)

Strike continues to expand its multifaceted Bitcoin offerings, which include brokerage, banking, and lending services across over 40 states. A key announcement was the introduction of volatility-proof loans, allowing users to take out credit without the risk of liquidation, currently available on an OTC basis. The company secured a massive $2.1 billion credit facility from Tether to finance its continued growth and scale operations globally. Strategically, the speaker discussed a proposed merger with Tether, viewing it as crucial for building a high-conviction, highly profitable Bitcoin company. Strike is positioned to serve as the financial services division for 21, supporting the broader needs of the growing Bitcoin economy.

Part 7 (90:00)

The speaker detailed a multi-pillar business strategy for a large Bitcoin company, moving beyond simple asset stacking. These pillars include financial services, physical Bitcoin infrastructure like mining and power contracts, capital markets operations, and strategic mergers and acquisitions to consolidate industry efforts. He noted that this integrated approach allows the company to raise cheap capital and leverage its Bitcoin holdings. In the Q&A section, he discussed that lowering mortgage rates requires lower bond yields, possibly through yield curve control by the Federal Reserve. Regarding market philosophy, he argued that fiat currency forces people into unproductive speculative trading just to beat inflation. He concluded that Bitcoin saves time and energy for individuals by removing the necessity of constant financial speculation.

Part 8 (105:00)

The speaker details how a Bitcoin Line of Credit works, noting that interest is only charged when the user actually draws funds or uses it for payments. He expressed hesitation about building a tap-to-pay debit card because established banks offer better fiat rewards, although Strike excels in Bitcoin functionality. Internally, there was discussion about implementing a premium subscription tier, such as a "Strike Black" account, to fund future development and features. The conversation also touched on the Chicago Bears' draft picks and defensive focus for the upcoming season. Finally, the speaker reflected on the pressure of being authentic online despite facing criticism, emphasizing that being real is increasingly valued in society.

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Transcript

â—† Visa Card watch

Longer exact transcript excerpts around the Visa / card conversation so the full thread is easy to recover later.

  • This video contains a direct card-roadmap signal worth tagging as Visa Card.
  • Jack discusses a card product directly, not just generic Strike usage.
  • The card discussion is tied to the broader line-of-credit roadmap.

74:40 · Visa / card conversation

[74:40] they want to opt into yield on their

[74:42] Bitcoin even, which I've taken a closer

[74:44] look at. We we're able to generate

[74:46] pretty good returns on our lightning

[74:48] network infrastructure. Maybe there's

[74:50] opportunities for us to to share that

[74:51] with customers. Um and you know, looking

[74:55] at potentially offering a strike card.

[74:57] There there's all sorts of things and

[74:59] you can kind of tell, you know, we are

[75:01] building a primary financial account for

[75:04] businesses, for individuals. We even

[75:06] have API services for developers and for

[75:08] future AI agents, but built on top of

[75:11] new monetary infrastructure with Bitcoin

106:21 · Supporting context

[106:21] interest. But, once you pay it down and

[106:23] pay it off, then again, as long as you

[106:25] don't have an outstanding balance,

[106:26] there's no problem.

[106:28] Um

[106:29] Okay, can Strike build a tap-to-pay

[106:32] debit card that lives uh in Apple Pay?

[106:35] It's definitely something that we've

[106:37] looked into. We've talked about it on

[106:38] the show a decent amount. I mean, my

[106:41] hesitancy is that I think Amex or

[106:45] uh Chase are always going to have better

[106:47] rewards cards than we will.

[106:49] So, the way I live on Strike is I use my

[106:52] credit cards and then I use Strike to

[106:54] pay off my credit cards and I use my

[106:55] line of credit to pay those off. And

[106:58] it's the best cuz I'm getting cash back

[107:00] and free flights. Like, you can use all

[107:01] these cards to get all this free stuff.

[107:04] And then I just use Strike to buy

[107:06] Bitcoin, line of credit against my

[107:08] Bitcoin, pay my bills, get my direct

[107:10] deposit.

[107:11] And I just don't know if we'll be better

[107:13] at credit card rewards than these

[107:16] massive companies that are all snug next

[107:19] to the money printers.

[107:21] So, that's the reason I'm not like

[107:22] jumping at building a card cuz we're

[107:24] better than Chase at Bitcoin stuff, but

[107:27] we're not necessarily better than Chase

[0:02] Yo, welcome back to another episode of
[0:05] the Jack Mallers Show. I am your host
[0:08] Jack and you are listening to yet
[0:10] another edition of Mailbag Monday
[0:13] episode 116.
[0:16] Ladies and gentlemen,
[0:18] I am talking to you all at a Bitcoin
[0:20] price of 80,340.
[0:24] Welcome back 80,000. Hopefully you stay
[0:28] for a while. Okay.
[0:32] Not a professional podcaster, didn't
[0:34] mute the episode, and we're back.
[0:36] Talking to you all at a Bitcoin price of
[0:37] 80,340
[0:39] US dollars. That puts Bitcoin's market
[0:41] cap back above 1.6 trillion at 1.61
[0:47] trillion US dollars for the asset class.
[0:49] Our all-time high is still 126,160
[0:53] dollars, which we made on October 6th of
[0:55] 2025, 210 days ago at this point. We are
[1:00] now only 36.3%
[1:02] down from that all-time high. Don't look
[1:04] now, here comes the orange coin. The
[1:07] last Bitcoin block height since I hit
[1:09] stream was Bitcoin block height 947,928.
[1:16] Ladies and gentlemen, it is good to be
[1:19] back in the empty closet. I am back from
[1:22] Las Vegas.
[1:24] Again, not the biggest fan, but I was
[1:25] happy to be there. We're fighting the
[1:26] good fight. We're fixing the money.
[1:28] We're fixing the world. And today's
[1:30] episode is titled Hold on to your butts,
[1:33] grab both cheeks,
[1:35] and your Bitcoin.
[1:37] Um oil surging again, bond market
[1:40] falling apart, gas prices in the US
[1:44] through the roof, and consumer sentiment
[1:47] has arguably never been worse at least
[1:49] in recent recorded history.
[1:52] The reason I picked this title is I
[1:54] believe that volatility is mispriced.
[1:57] The market is not valuing volatility.
[2:01] It's not implying volatility anytime
[2:03] soon. I think that is can't be the case.
[2:06] Bitcoin is starting to kick and scream a
[2:08] little bit. And we know that Bitcoin
[2:09] usually leads. It usually tells us
[2:12] inklings of what's going to happen in
[2:14] the future because it is such a free
[2:15] market. So, my recommendation is to hold
[2:19] on to your butts and your Bitcoin. So,
[2:21] without further to further ado, let's
[2:24] get started. Okay.
[2:26] I had mentioned a few weeks ago
[2:28] uh I'm over the
[2:31] political like I'm done. I'm done
[2:32] chasing the headlines. Um all these
[2:34] politicians do, doesn't matter if
[2:36] they're on the left or the right, the up
[2:38] or the down, the red or the blue, or
[2:40] this or that. On this podcast, we bleed
[2:43] orange. We are Bitcoiners. I think
[2:45] government's gotten too big, and I think
[2:46] all they do is lie, lie, lie, lie.
[2:50] And I'm done wasting my time on it. So,
[2:53] I told you guys very simply
[2:56] the only reason I was going to
[2:57] reintroduce, try and understand what's
[2:59] going on, what central planners were
[3:01] thinking, is if I could answer these
[3:04] four questions. Or if these four
[3:06] questions, rather, would uh their
[3:08] answers would change.
[3:10] One, is the Strait of Hormuz still
[3:12] closed?
[3:14] Two, is the conflict still going on in
[3:17] Iran?
[3:18] Three, are global supply chains still
[3:20] being disrupted? And four, can global
[3:23] debt survive this disruption?
[3:27] My point is the answers to these have
[3:29] yet to be changed. Week after week,
[3:32] announcement after announcement, Truth
[3:34] Social post after Truth Social post.
[3:37] No matter what these politicians say
[3:39] they're trying both on both sides. US,
[3:41] Iran, this way, that way, China, Russia,
[3:44] blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
[3:46] Politicians, they're giant chief
[3:48] marketing officers. They talk, they
[3:50] talk, they talk, they they lie, they
[3:52] lie, okay?
[3:54] And it's not worth our time. This this
[3:57] little beloved corner of the internet
[3:59] that we all share here, they were we're
[4:01] we're trying to lock arms and understand
[4:03] the future and hard money and how to
[4:06] uh bring prosperous times to ourselves
[4:08] and our family and our children. They're
[4:10] not going to steal our time and energy
[4:12] on this podcast. No, no, no. Because is
[4:14] the Strait of Hormuz still closed? Yes.
[4:16] Is the conflict still ongoing? Yes. Are
[4:18] global supply chains still being
[4:20] disrupted? Yes. Can global debt survive
[4:22] this disruption? No. We move on. Because
[4:24] here's the deal.
[4:26] Sunday night Trump tweeted this like
[4:28] vague thing that he called Project
[4:31] Freedom, which was supposedly going to
[4:33] impact the Strait of Hormuz and how
[4:34] ships got through and all this stuff.
[4:36] And markets started to rally a little
[4:38] bit on Sunday night as if this was
[4:41] meaningful news, as if this was going to
[4:42] be something that actually mattered,
[4:44] that was real.
[4:45] And of course on Monday morning, what do
[4:47] we do? Apparently Trump did not announce
[4:49] that the Navy will start escorting ships
[4:50] through the Strait of Hormuz,
[4:52] even though that is what he posted 2
[4:54] hours ago.
[4:55] This might explain why markets are
[4:56] hardly moving on this news. He
[4:58] effectively announced nothing.
[5:01] And I mean, hate to be the I told you so
[5:04] guy,
[5:05] but I told you so.
[5:07] The markets are getting fatigued of the
[5:10] media media media headline headline
[5:12] headline. They're trying to control
[5:14] markets
[5:16] so that they can buy themselves more
[5:17] time. We've talked about it. The United
[5:19] States, their biggest vulnerability, our
[5:21] biggest vulnerability as a country,
[5:24] is the bond market, is the ability to
[5:25] finance ourselves, is our fiscal
[5:27] situation.
[5:28] And I think the market is fatigued of
[5:30] all these headlines. I think people like
[5:32] me, well, I don't think, I know, are
[5:34] fatigued of all this political rhetoric.
[5:37] And again, it's not not picking sides.
[5:39] I'm over that. I'm over that. Until the
[5:42] the answer to these four questions
[5:44] change, is the Strait still closed? Is
[5:47] the conflict ongoing? Are global supply
[5:49] chains being disrupted and can global
[5:50] debt survive the disruption? If these
[5:52] remain unchanged week over week, we move
[5:55] on and we have to figure out well, what
[5:59] is this doing to implied inflation? How
[6:01] is Bitcoin reacting to this? What tools
[6:03] do we need to build as a community? What
[6:04] education do we need to invest in as a
[6:06] community? And so that is where we are
[6:08] going to go for chapter one. The oil
[6:10] shock is here. And so given that the
[6:13] straight is still closed, given that the
[6:15] conflict in Iran is still ongoing, given
[6:18] that global supply chains continue to be
[6:20] disrupted cuz guys remember
[6:23] the Strait of Hormuz is 20%
[6:26] of the global oil supply chain. And we
[6:29] you guys also have to keep in mind one
[6:31] thing.
[6:32] Everything in your life is a derivative
[6:35] of energy, okay?
[6:38] The The human story is very simply can
[6:42] Well,
[6:43] I wouldn't be that dramatic, but the
[6:44] human story can very simply be
[6:46] understood as How about that? The human
[6:49] story can very simply be understood as
[6:52] commercializing energy from the sun.
[6:55] There's this big giant orange yellow
[6:57] thing in the sky
[6:59] and it beams energy down onto planet
[7:02] Earth.
[7:03] And the human story can best be
[7:05] understood as commercializing that
[7:07] energy that is beaming from the bright
[7:10] thing in the sky
[7:11] and making use of it for a prosperous
[7:14] life for our species. That is the human
[7:17] story, okay?
[7:19] And
[7:20] everything that we consume and that we
[7:23] use is some derivative
[7:25] of that energy, right? The food you're
[7:28] eating, those are calories. That's a
[7:30] derivative of energy. How you transport
[7:33] yourself, whether it's the car, via
[7:35] plane, or even walking, you cannot walk,
[7:39] you cannot run without sufficient energy
[7:42] in your body. Whether you're burning
[7:45] calories, whether you're burning fat,
[7:47] it's all a derivative of energy. The
[7:49] house you're living in, that is a
[7:51] derivative of energy. And the
[7:53] electricity bill, how we communicate
[7:56] with each other is a derivative of
[7:58] energy. The cell phone in your pocket.
[8:00] So, you have to understand oil is one of
[8:03] the most important markets in the world.
[8:06] And when there is an oil shock or
[8:08] disruption to the oil supply chain, you
[8:11] have to understand the ripple effects
[8:12] that that has on everything around you.
[8:15] Because oil and the energy market,
[8:18] everything else is a derivative of that.
[8:20] And so, when they say, "Oh, there's
[8:22] inflation in oil." That means inflation
[8:24] in everything else must be coming. The
[8:26] reason people say that is because
[8:28] everything else is a mere derivative of
[8:30] energy. And that's also when you hear
[8:32] people say, "Well, Bitcoin is energy
[8:34] money." And it's really important that
[8:36] Bitcoin uses stuff like proof of work,
[8:38] which demand and require external
[8:40] energy. This is why that property is so
[8:43] important is because ultimately, what
[8:45] you should care about in your money is
[8:47] how well it does in keeping energy
[8:50] purchasing power.
[8:51] Your money should do a good job at
[8:53] protecting your right to consume energy.
[8:56] All right, that's what everyone wants.
[8:57] Everyone wants a two-car garage guzzling
[9:00] oil, unlimited flights whenever they
[9:02] want to travel somewhere, an ability to
[9:05] get as much housing as they want, keep
[9:08] the lights on through the night if their
[9:09] kid wants to play video games, order the
[9:12] nicest food, the nicest form of
[9:14] calories, the most organic grass-fed
[9:17] steaks as opposed to the pleb slop jail
[9:20] lunch. It's all a derivative of energy.
[9:23] And so, money is your time and energy in
[9:25] abstracted form. Consumption as humans
[9:27] is derivative of energy. And the oil
[9:30] market is really, really, really
[9:32] important to things like inflation, to
[9:34] things like macroeconomics, geopolitics,
[9:37] so on and so forth. And so,
[9:39] with
[9:41] the the thing about this war
[9:43] is we were told, "Oh, it's going to I
[9:45] mean, guys, like the amount of
[9:46] gaslighting is crazy. We were told, "Oh,
[9:48] it's going to end really soon. It's just
[9:50] a little blip. We just need to go in, do
[9:52] this thing, boom boom boom, and it's
[9:53] over. Oh, wait one more week. Oh, wait
[9:55] one more thing. Oh, wait this. Oh, wait
[9:57] that." And here we are, and it's May
[10:00] 4th.
[10:01] And I believe the conflict started in
[10:03] the last few days of February.
[10:05] So, it's been all of March, all of
[10:07] April. So, it's been at least 2 months.
[10:10] And the Strait of Hormuz is still
[10:13] experiencing blockage. And so, then
[10:16] let's take a look at how this really
[10:19] critical commodity market, this oil
[10:21] market, energy markets, which are the
[10:23] tip of the iceberg, because everything
[10:25] else is a derivative of energy, of this
[10:28] thing that's beaming energy out of the
[10:30] sky, which we call the sun.
[10:32] So, you can see from this tweet from Jim
[10:34] Bianco, "What does the oil market think?
[10:37] Both the July orange and the December
[10:39] blue Brent crude oil futures contracts
[10:41] are at new highs, at new highs."
[10:44] And this is dating back to the beginning
[10:46] of this year. The December contract is
[10:48] now signaling that the market expects
[10:50] crude oil to be above $90 for the next 7
[10:53] months.
[10:55] So, the reason looking at futures
[10:56] contracts are important is because
[10:58] they're trying to price, hence the name,
[11:00] the future of the physical commodity.
[11:02] They're derivative for forward pricing
[11:05] is what it's called, risk transfer of
[11:07] forward pricing.
[11:08] And so, the reason that this is valuable
[11:10] is we're like, "Whoa, markets expect
[11:13] that crude oil is going to be worth over
[11:16] $90 all the way in December." The blue
[11:19] line is when the contract settles in
[11:21] December. And so, you can hear all of
[11:23] the talking heads on TV, all of the
[11:25] politicians, all of the paid podcasters.
[11:29] Hey, no sponsors. I'm not paid, man of
[11:31] the people, man of the people.
[11:32] But all the rhetoric trying to convince
[11:35] you to believe their bias or believe uh
[11:37] what they're being paid to say,
[11:39] what I care more about is I love markets
[11:42] because markets force people to put real
[11:45] time and energy on the line, real
[11:46] capital on the line. Words are cheap.
[11:48] Words are easy. Words are free.
[11:51] Money's not.
[11:52] And the fact that futures are saying
[11:54] that oil is still going to be
[11:57] at or near $100
[12:00] per barrel even by December, what does
[12:03] that tell you guys about the level of
[12:04] disruption in these markets? What does
[12:06] that tell you guys about the conflict?
[12:08] So earlier today, Iran had an attack on
[12:11] the UAE. The UAE announced it and Brent
[12:14] crude went from
[12:16] 110 to 120 and it's back on the run,
[12:20] it's back on the rise, just screeching
[12:22] higher. And again, considering
[12:25] everything is a derivative of energy,
[12:27] this is going to have grave impact on
[12:30] the world we're living in and obviously
[12:32] as Bitcoiners, you know, I had someone
[12:34] ask me on a podcast recently. I recorded
[12:37] a podcast on Friday. I think it'll be
[12:38] out on Wednesday maybe. And
[12:42] he said, "Well, what like what what's
[12:44] your answer when people say, why do you
[12:45] care about the Strait of Hormuz? Why are
[12:47] you always talking about this macro
[12:49] stuff?" And it's because Bitcoin is a
[12:51] solution to a problem and the problem is
[12:54] fiat, the problem is the legacy finance
[12:56] system and I benefit from and enjoy
[13:00] trying to understand the state of the
[13:02] problem and how bad it really is and
[13:05] how I can best position the solution
[13:07] which is Bitcoin
[13:09] for the world that we're in right now.
[13:11] Um you know, people are caring about
[13:12] different things. There's different
[13:14] stuff ongoing in the world and so the
[13:16] fact that you know, Brent crude oil is
[13:19] above $120 a barrel, like that's really
[13:22] meaningful. Um gas prices are starting
[13:25] to really, really, really move. So you
[13:26] can see in the green line here, gas
[13:29] prices are up 33% this year, and it
[13:32] looks like they're just getting started.
[13:33] We're already almost at the 2022 gas
[13:37] price high, and we're already higher
[13:40] than the gas price
[13:42] uh highs of the 2008-2009 Great
[13:45] Financial Crisis. So,
[13:47] gas prices are really starting to move.
[13:50] And I wanted to highlight some stuff
[13:52] because you're going to start seeing
[13:53] economic data. I I've seen um whether
[13:56] it's central banks, or whether it's
[13:59] commercial banks, or whether it's
[14:01] governments around the world, they're
[14:03] starting to cite strong economic growth.
[14:06] They're saying, "Oh, man, the the US
[14:08] economy or the European economy or
[14:10] whoever's booming. There's so much
[14:12] spending. There's so much economic
[14:14] activity." You're going to start to see
[14:16] that and hear that, and then you know,
[14:17] there's a Fed chair change. Obviously,
[14:19] Warsh is expected to be coming in, and
[14:21] Jerome Powell is now done.
[14:24] And I wanted to highlight a really
[14:25] important point, and that yes,
[14:27] nominally, so in US dollar terms,
[14:31] things are {quote} {unquote} booming,
[14:33] right? Like the amount of dollars moving
[14:35] around and being spent by consumers
[14:38] looks high. But the question is, what
[14:41] are those dollars being spent on, number
[14:44] one, and number two,
[14:46] what about the real economic terms? So,
[14:50] instead of measuring things in dollars,
[14:52] which we know get debased and are worth
[14:54] less over time, what about measuring
[14:56] things in real terms? So, first on the
[14:59] left, you can see this is increased
[15:02] spending on gasoline is likely to weigh
[15:04] most on the real consumer spending. And
[15:06] so, you can see this average effect
[15:09] baseline of an oil shock, energy goods
[15:12] on the far left, and then all the way on
[15:14] the far right is housing and utilities,
[15:16] health care. And when you have an oil
[15:18] shock,
[15:20] the amount of capital being spent just
[15:23] on energy goods, just on oil is
[15:26] unbelievably high. So, I wouldn't say
[15:29] the economy is booming if people are
[15:31] just forced to spend and dip into their
[15:33] savings just to fill their gas tank,
[15:36] just to pay the electricity bill, just
[15:38] to get by. On the right, you can see US
[15:41] retail sales by kind of business, and
[15:43] look at gasoline stations. Gasoline
[15:46] station sitting at 15.5%
[15:49] and then furniture and home furnishing
[15:51] is second in 2.2%.
[15:54] And so again, I encourage you guys
[15:56] always pull on the thread, think
[15:58] critically, think think for yourselves.
[16:00] Yes, nominally there are more dollars
[16:03] sloshing around the US economy, but it's
[16:05] all on energy goods, derivatives of
[16:08] energy, gas stations. That's not
[16:10] necessarily a good thing, and I pull on
[16:13] the thread a little bit more in this
[16:14] slide, and you can see that
[16:17] adjusted for inflation, consumer
[16:19] spending is pulling back tremendously.
[16:22] So, you can see this yellow line is the
[16:24] pre-pandemic trend, and we know
[16:26] post-pandemic, post-COVID, money
[16:28] bazooka, money printing, this is an
[16:30] entirely different world, and you you
[16:32] know, history might look back at COVID
[16:35] and the timeline we're living through
[16:36] today is the beginning of the end for
[16:40] fiat, or it depends on what you want to
[16:42] call it, the post-1971 dollar, right?
[16:45] Because, you know, there's almost two
[16:46] chapters of fiat. One chapter where it
[16:48] was supposedly linked to a physical
[16:51] commodity that you couldn't print like
[16:53] gold, and supposedly it was redeemable
[16:56] for gold. Now, the practicality of that,
[16:58] I'd highly question. I would guess that
[17:00] the you big governments and central
[17:03] banks of the world were actually largely
[17:05] insolvent before 1971, but let's just
[17:08] say this post-71 dollar to keep it
[17:10] clean, which is it's not redeemable for
[17:13] any hard money, it's not redeemable for
[17:15] any commodity, it's not governed by the
[17:19] natural laws of the universe, by mother
[17:22] nature, by things that you can't just
[17:24] print out of thin air. It is man-made,
[17:26] man-governed, centrally planned slop.
[17:29] This post-71 dollar, this is likely the
[17:31] beginning of the end. And you can see
[17:33] that visually in this chart where once
[17:36] we adjust for inflation, once we adjust
[17:38] for real purchasing power terms, uh let
[17:41] me try and dumb it down.
[17:43] If $1 gets you an egg and then we
[17:47] experience inflation
[17:49] where
[17:50] now you need $2 for an egg measuring
[17:53] things in dollars is not that
[17:56] interesting because you can say
[17:58] "Oh, there's a dollar like the US
[18:01] economy went from spending $1 to $1.50.
[18:04] Wow, that's 50% growth. That's crazy
[18:07] amounts of growth."
[18:09] But if it doesn't even get you one egg
[18:12] anymore, then the real purchasing power
[18:15] terms is declining. Yes, nominally
[18:17] people are spending more dollars, but
[18:20] practically speaking in the exchange of
[18:22] goods and services, which is ultimately
[18:24] what money's for
[18:26] people are consuming and getting less.
[18:29] And so you can see the retail sales in
[18:31] the blue is starting to fall apart in
[18:34] this post-COVID world when you adjust
[18:37] for inflation. And so don't be fooled
[18:40] when you see, "Oh, the US economy is a
[18:42] booming. Look at all of these metrics."
[18:45] Well, nominal terms and real terms are
[18:46] different. And when you pull on the
[18:47] thread, you realize that during an oil
[18:49] shock, people are dipping into their
[18:51] savings just to get by. Like things like
[18:54] energy consumption and oil and gas,
[18:58] these are like base level needs. That's
[19:00] that's not like discretionary consumer
[19:02] spending. It's not like, "Oh,
[19:04] I won't get the Louboutin bag this this
[19:07] Christmas cuz money's tight." It doesn't
[19:09] matter how tight money is. Like you need
[19:12] to commute to work. You need to get your
[19:14] kid to school. You need the lights to be
[19:16] you you need the AC or the heat to be on
[19:19] in your home. It just doesn't really So,
[19:22] again, just keep that in mind.
[19:25] Meanwhile, the US crude reserves are
[19:27] declining to scary amounts of lows. They
[19:30] are continuing to dwindle. So, you know,
[19:33] the United States is using their SPR.
[19:37] And this is something to keep an eye on
[19:39] as well. I mean, listen.
[19:41] An oil shock and high gas prices is a
[19:44] sure-fire way to lose an election. So, I
[19:47] would keep my eye on
[19:49] oil policies. I honestly wouldn't put it
[19:52] past the administration to even look
[19:54] into, you know, export restrictions. So,
[19:58] the combination of what we're walking
[20:00] through, of consumers are getting
[20:02] crushed, inflation seems to be roaring
[20:05] back, which we'll get to in a second,
[20:07] gas prices are likely going to make
[20:10] all-time highs, at least in the last 20
[20:12] years.
[20:14] And our SPR, strategic petroleum
[20:17] reserves, are declining.
[20:20] I mean, that is screaming some form of
[20:23] policy from government or central
[20:24] planners. So, I would keep an eye on on
[20:26] it I out on it. I just wanted to
[20:28] highlight it um because it is an
[20:31] important thing to note. For chapter
[20:34] two, the bond market. So, on one side,
[20:37] you've got oil is screaming higher. And
[20:40] what that's doing to the bond market is
[20:42] it's crushing it. And so, let's take a
[20:44] step back.
[20:45] I try and make the show for the common
[20:48] man, by the common man.
[20:50] We're not here to get into, you know,
[20:53] this is not a economics class at
[20:55] Harvard. That's not what this show is
[20:56] about. Try and dumb all this stuff down
[20:59] and make sure it's digestible and easy
[21:00] to understand.
[21:02] So, what is the bond market? Just a
[21:04] quick reminder.
[21:05] It's how the US government gets money
[21:08] lent to it. Again, the US government
[21:10] runs what's called a deficit. They on
[21:13] net, if they were a business, they'd be
[21:14] extremely unprofitable. They run about a
[21:16] two trillion dollar deficit a year. You
[21:19] can think of it like losing two trillion
[21:20] dollars a year. So the US government
[21:22] spends a lot more than it quote unquote
[21:25] makes. So how does it afford it? Well,
[21:28] the bond market. And a bond is just
[21:30] lending money to the government. Is a
[21:33] bond it when you buy a bond, you're
[21:34] lending money to the government and
[21:36] you're getting interest, you're getting
[21:37] yield. So the US government owes
[21:39] interest on on that loan. And that is
[21:42] the bond yield. And so when bonds go
[21:44] down, yields go up.
[21:46] Because for very simple it's it's very
[21:49] simple math.
[21:50] If the US government wants money lent to
[21:52] it and the yield is at 3% and the market
[21:55] is like ugh, I don't want to touch that.
[21:57] I'm not lending money to the US
[21:58] government for 3%. Well then the yields
[22:01] will go higher. And so okay, what about
[22:02] 3.1%? 3.2? 3.3? 3.4? Until demand meets
[22:08] supply. Until oh okay, fine. If the US
[22:10] government's willing to pay me 20%
[22:13] yield, I'll lend the US government
[22:15] money. And so as bonds lose demand, the
[22:18] yield goes up and vice versa. As
[22:21] everyone's piling into bonds, yields
[22:24] come down. If everyone's like fine like
[22:26] I really want to lend to the US
[22:27] government, they can probably get away
[22:29] with financing it for cheaper interest.
[22:31] Make sense? So let's take a look at how
[22:34] bond markets are doing. Oil is driving
[22:36] bond volatility. Oil's impact on the
[22:39] bond market. I would argue that oil in
[22:41] the blue is driving bond volatility in
[22:43] the orange, not the other way around.
[22:46] That means wider daily ranges and given
[22:48] the current environment, higher yields.
[22:51] So bond volatility has been one of the
[22:54] most important metrics to understand
[22:56] when the money printer is coming out.
[22:58] The US government's got 40 trillion
[23:00] dollars worth of debt.
[23:02] A really simple way to think about the
[23:04] US government and the current filthy
[23:05] fiat financial system is a highly
[23:08] indebted system, a highly leveraged
[23:11] system, tons of leverage. We're all
[23:14] familiar with leverage on this podcast
[23:17] because we're in crypto. We know that
[23:19] like if you're super leveraged and the
[23:20] price moves a little bit, you get
[23:22] liquidated. And you can think of the US
[23:24] government in the same way, extremely
[23:26] extremely leveraged. So, what does a
[23:28] highly leveraged, highly indebted system
[23:30] not like? Volatility. Volatility is
[23:33] scary. And the the very specific reason
[23:37] why the US highly leveraged system
[23:39] doesn't like volatility is a lot of the
[23:42] people that are lending to the US
[23:43] government are doing it via what's
[23:45] called a carry trade. These are hedge
[23:47] funds that are leveraging up their
[23:49] balance sheet to lend to the US
[23:51] government. And when the collateral that
[23:53] you're posting is experiencing
[23:55] volatility, then you have to de-risk.
[23:57] And then you have to pull that trade
[23:59] back.
[24:00] And when there's a lot of bond volatili-
[24:02] bond volatility, the market gets weaker.
[24:05] The buyers kind of step back because all
[24:07] of these fast money traders, they can't
[24:10] leverage up their balance sheets when
[24:12] there's volatility. And so, the fact
[24:14] that one of the most important, if not
[24:16] the most important commodity, is
[24:18] experiencing a shock, is experiencing
[24:20] supply chain shortages around the world.
[24:22] And again, you know, Japan imports
[24:26] I think it's 90% of their oil and over
[24:28] 50% of their food. And these are all of
[24:32] these global supply chains are in
[24:34] serious trouble cuz everything's a
[24:36] derivative of energy of things like oil.
[24:40] And so, the fact that oil markets are
[24:42] all messed up is going to mess up
[24:44] everything else. And you're starting to
[24:47] see volatility in the bond market start
[24:50] to peel back up. And this is, by the
[24:53] way, the MOVE index, which is the bond
[24:55] volatility index. This is the same index
[24:58] that shot up during liberation week that
[25:00] forced Trump to taco and forced the
[25:02] money printers to come out in storm and
[25:04] that sent Bitcoin from whatever it was
[25:07] at at the time of April of last year of
[25:09] 25 to 125,000 by October. That run was
[25:14] money printing, it was stimulus, and it
[25:17] was in a reaction to things like bond
[25:20] volatility. And you're starting to see
[25:21] bond volatility creep back up cuz I'm
[25:24] telling you guys you cannot take 20% of
[25:27] the world's oil offline, one of the most
[25:29] important supply chain vectors in the
[25:31] Strait of Hormuz, offline and expect the
[25:33] world to function as normal. These
[25:36] things like gas prices are going to go
[25:37] up. Inflation is going to come back. US
[25:40] consumer sentiment is going to be as bad
[25:43] as it's ever been. Combine that with AI.
[25:46] Combine that with the fact that people
[25:48] are comparing this to oh, what what
[25:50] about when we were in 2001? What about
[25:53] in the '90s? Yeah, but in 2001 in the
[25:55] '90s, we weren't 40 trillion dollars of
[25:57] debt.
[25:58] They you cannot keep borrowing from your
[26:00] future, not paying it back, and
[26:02] comparing us to times when you know,
[26:05] it's like the equivalent of like
[26:07] comparing a runner who's running a mile
[26:10] who's in pristine Olympic shape versus
[26:12] comparing a runner who's running a mile
[26:14] in the Olympics that's obese. It's like
[26:17] these are not comparable things. Like
[26:18] the US has a ton of excess weight. It is
[26:21] obese and drowning in in debt.
[26:25] I mean, it's just it's just not going to
[26:27] work. So, the bond markets are falling
[26:31] apart. So, again, bond math confuses
[26:34] people, but when you guys see rates go
[26:38] up, that means bonds are crashing,
[26:40] right? Because if people are getting rid
[26:42] of bonds, they're like, oh my goodness,
[26:43] I do not want to lend to the United
[26:45] States right now. And why would they be
[26:47] saying that? Well, one because as fiscal
[26:50] situation is just such a mess, generally
[26:52] speaking. But, if you expect there to be
[26:54] inflation, you need higher yields to
[26:56] compensate you for that inflation. Let's
[26:58] say the things around you that you want
[27:00] to buy, you think are going to be
[27:02] getting more expensive, at least 5% more
[27:05] expensive a year. Well, you certainly
[27:07] wouldn't lend money out for 3% then, cuz
[27:10] sure, you're making 3% a year,
[27:11] quote-unquote risk-free, but everything
[27:13] that you want to buy is getting 5% more
[27:15] expensive. So, that is real rates
[27:18] negative is what they call it. That
[27:20] means you're losing purchasing power
[27:21] over time. And so, if the collective
[27:25] consensus is yikes, Strait of Hormuz is
[27:28] closed, there's conflict in the Middle
[27:29] East, AI is coming and taking everyone's
[27:31] job, I don't know if I want to lend to
[27:33] the United States right now, I'd rather
[27:35] buy Bitcoin, then bonds will fall and
[27:39] yields will go up, and that's what we're
[27:40] seeing here. So, if you look at this
[27:42] diagram, the yellow lines is when Trump
[27:44] introduced tariffs. And you can see in
[27:47] 2018, tariffs were introduced, yields
[27:50] collapsed until COVID,
[27:52] and the inflation bonanza after that,
[27:55] you could see the post-COVID recovery
[27:57] and the 2022 inflation shock. And then
[27:59] you can see Trump back in office,
[28:01] released ter- or announced tariffs again
[28:04] in 2025, and you can see that the
[28:07] 10-year and the 30-year rates tried to
[28:10] start to come down again, but they're on
[28:13] the rise and they're back up and they're
[28:14] almost at these all-time highs, at least
[28:17] all- like all-time highs within this
[28:19] time window, which is a little over a
[28:21] decade. But, across the 2-year, the
[28:24] 10-year, the 30-year, bond rates are
[28:26] soaring, which is, again, collectively,
[28:29] that means that people aren't as
[28:32] interested in lending to the US
[28:34] government anymore, and there's
[28:35] absolutely a relationship. Oil going up
[28:39] and bond rates going up, that means
[28:41] there are inflation concerns, that means
[28:43] that the fiscal situation people aren't
[28:45] as confident in anymore. It's one thing
[28:47] to hear a podcaster say it, it's another
[28:49] thing to see the bond market say it.
[28:51] This is the biggest, most unruly market
[28:53] in the world. Okay, this is what Bitcoin
[28:58] is trying to replace. This is the
[29:00] world's store of value today.
[29:03] Government debt, bonds, government
[29:06] paper.
[29:07] So, you see this is just the 30-year US
[29:09] Treasury. The 30-year US Treasury is
[29:12] flirting with 5% and James Lavish,
[29:14] friend friend of the show, friend of the
[29:16] show, he tweets, "How about those
[29:18] mortgage rates?"
[29:19] So, again, you want to lose an election?
[29:22] You want to create societal unrest?
[29:25] Well, have gas prices be at all-time
[29:27] highs in the last 20 years and have long
[29:31] long
[29:32] long duration rates soaring, which is
[29:34] going to screw up everyone's ability to
[29:35] actually get a mortgage and own a home.
[29:38] So, again,
[29:40] we you know, we cannot talk like the
[29:42] straight or her moves and all stuff. We
[29:43] cannot talk about it on the show, but
[29:45] the reality is the world we live in is a
[29:48] derivative of energy, guys. The the
[29:50] story of mankind is commercializing
[29:53] energy. That's the story of human
[29:55] prosperity. I joke all the time. People
[29:57] say, "Oh, Bitcoin miners take up too
[29:59] much energy. I'm not that kind of guy. I
[30:01] wouldn't use that much energy." Okay,
[30:03] you don't like using energy? Okay, cool.
[30:05] I'll tell you what. Next time you go to
[30:07] Europe, you take a kayak and I'll fly
[30:10] United because oh, no, no, you don't
[30:12] like using energy. You're not the kind
[30:14] of guy that would use energy.
[30:16] All right?
[30:17] Next time this your favorite sports team
[30:19] plays, you listen to the radio
[30:21] broadcast, I'll watch it on television.
[30:24] All right?
[30:25] Next time you need to send a message to
[30:26] a friend, you use a pigeon and I'll use
[30:29] an iPhone.
[30:31] You understand that commercializing
[30:33] energy and harnessing energy
[30:36] for all is the road to prosperity.
[30:40] Whoever's convincing you that consuming
[30:42] energy is a bad thing is short energy
[30:45] for some reason. My dad once told me, "A
[30:47] politician's opinion is a politician's
[30:49] position."
[30:51] Politicians saying energy consumption is
[30:53] bad isn't based in fact, isn't based in
[30:56] your best interest. It's based in that
[30:58] the country isn't have an abundance of
[31:01] energy, and energy inflation is the root
[31:04] of all societal distress.
[31:07] But make no mistake, the lives that you
[31:09] dream about
[31:11] concede consume the most energy.
[31:14] Private travel, two-car garages, big
[31:17] houses, like that I mean the the nicest
[31:21] food quality, that's all energy.
[31:24] All energy.
[31:26] Make no mistake about it.
[31:28] And so anyways, now I'm going to
[31:31] transition this subtly into what does it
[31:34] mean for Bitcoin? What does it mean for
[31:36] financial markets? Well, interestingly,
[31:39] Bitcoin is rising in this environment
[31:42] right now, which is kind of crazy. And I
[31:45] think broadly markets are going to have
[31:47] to make a decision. Are they going to
[31:49] crash because, you know, the oil shock
[31:53] is really going to tighten liquidity,
[31:55] there's going to be some form of a
[31:56] financial crisis, which will result in
[31:58] money printing?
[31:59] Or are they going to rip? Because
[32:02] there's going to be continued stimulus
[32:04] into the
[32:05] financial markets and into the economy.
[32:08] So, I just wanted to highlight that the
[32:10] US government is what they call running
[32:12] it hot. They are providing lots of
[32:14] liquidity. There are three primary
[32:17] stealth liquidity channels that are
[32:18] propping up markets today. Why Bitcoin
[32:21] is going out? It's smelling the
[32:23] liquidity that the US government is
[32:24] providing. It's really interesting
[32:26] because usually
[32:28] central planners provide liquidity only
[32:31] after there's a crisis because it's more
[32:32] politically palatable to do it that way.
[32:35] Right? You say, "Instead of juicing
[32:37] markets and inciting inflation before
[32:40] there's a crisis, they usually do it
[32:42] after because it's like, 'Oh, I'll I'm
[32:44] here to save the day. Oh, your bank
[32:46] failed? Well, I'm here with a b c d e f
[32:48] g funding program that's saving
[32:51] everyone's deposits, making sure that
[32:53] everyone knows that I saved you, I saved
[32:55] your deposits, I saved your bank.'" That
[32:58] sounds what like way more of a heroic
[33:00] hero's journey than I just printed a
[33:04] bunch of money, sent assets higher, and
[33:06] the reason your eggs are twice as
[33:08] expensive is probably my fault. So, it's
[33:11] interesting. This is kind of out of
[33:12] character for policy makers, but
[33:15] nonetheless, number one is this reserve
[33:17] management pur- purchase program.
[33:19] Remember, back in uh Q4 of last year,
[33:23] the Fed said that they would start to
[33:26] enable this repurchase program in
[33:28] growing the size of their balance sheet.
[33:30] We had been in QT for a while.
[33:33] For years.
[33:35] And the the Fed's balance sheet was uh
[33:37] getting smaller.
[33:39] And the Fed said they're finally pausing
[33:41] QT. Now, they didn't say we're starting
[33:42] QE cuz QE is a bad word. People know
[33:45] what QE is. They associate it with
[33:47] inflation. They associate it with the
[33:49] wealth gap. And so, in my opinion, this
[33:52] is de facto QE, but they didn't call it
[33:55] QE. It's not QE technically, but still,
[33:57] the Fed's balance sheet has now started
[33:59] to grow. That is stimulus number one.
[34:02] Stimulus Stimulus number two is
[34:04] suppressing the dollar. And so, we've
[34:06] seen the US government go out of its way
[34:09] to try and weaken the dollar at every
[34:11] chance it can. It's called for rate
[34:14] checks. It's tried to negotiate swap
[34:16] lines with the UAE we've talked about
[34:18] recently. Anything it can do to make
[34:21] sure the dollar doesn't strengthen. Why
[34:23] is that? Am I saying that that's a bad
[34:25] thing they're doing? It's not good or
[34:27] bad. It's important to understand. The
[34:29] reason they're doing it
[34:31] is because
[34:33] you cannot reshore manufacturing,
[34:36] reshore production in your country with
[34:38] a strong currency.
[34:40] Or else, there's never going to be an
[34:42] opportunity to make the iPhone in
[34:44] America or to produce your own military
[34:47] equipment in America because labor will
[34:49] always be cheaper elsewhere.
[34:52] The US dollar is artificially priced
[34:54] high. US assets are artificially priced
[34:56] high. Now, ultimately, the reason for
[34:58] that is cuz of the world reserve
[35:00] currency status.
[35:01] There is a persistent level of demand
[35:04] for the US dollar that no other currency
[35:06] has. And so, there is a persistent
[35:08] artificially high price for the US
[35:10] dollar that no other currency has. I've
[35:13] said time and time again, if the US
[35:14] wants to solve their problem really
[35:16] quickly, they could just say we don't
[35:18] want to be the world reserve currency
[35:19] anymore and that'll be that. Now, it's
[35:21] not that simple, obviously. But, that's
[35:24] the reason. And so, the goal of a weaker
[35:26] dollar, therein lies the goal of the US
[35:30] government. It doesn't really matter
[35:32] Democrat, Republican, left, right, red,
[35:34] blue. It's a consistent theme that the
[35:37] US feels globalism is no longer
[35:39] advancing what America wants and what
[35:42] they want for their people. They're
[35:43] trying to reshore. They're trying to
[35:45] bring back blue collar. They're trying
[35:47] to bring back manual labor. They're
[35:48] trying to bring back industrial
[35:51] production.
[35:52] And that requires a weaker currency.
[35:54] Now, a weaker dollar implies inflation,
[35:57] naturally. A weaker dollar gets you less
[35:59] food. A weaker dollar gets you less
[36:00] housing. A weaker dollar gets you less
[36:02] Bitcoin. So, it implies higher asset
[36:05] prices. So, one
[36:07] RMPs, reserve management repurchases
[36:09] from uh or
[36:11] reserve management purchases from uh the
[36:13] Fed. Two is the US government is clearly
[36:16] going out of its way. And when I say
[36:17] government, primarily the Treasury, is
[36:19] going out of its way to ensure that the
[36:21] dollar not only doesn't get strong, but
[36:25] finds a way to get weaker.
[36:27] And three is issuance manipulation.
[36:30] The US government is issuing treasuries
[36:33] on the what they call the short end.
[36:36] So, you could issue T-bills, which are
[36:38] more like cash instruments, or you could
[36:40] issue 10 years, which are, you know,
[36:43] 10-year US Treasury.
[36:45] Now, the government is staying away from
[36:47] the long end, and it's obvious because
[36:50] it's the long end is weak. There's not a
[36:52] lot of demand at the long end. Virtually
[36:54] nobody wants to lend the US government
[36:57] money over 10 years. You'd have to be
[36:59] nuts. How do you price in inflation over
[37:01] 10 years? How do you price in what our
[37:03] monetary system is even going to look
[37:05] like, or are we going to be living in
[37:07] this multipolar world? I mean, you'd
[37:09] have to be crazy. I mean, COVID wasn't
[37:11] even 10 years ago. You want to lend a
[37:14] sovereign money for 10 years?
[37:16] I mean, the level of uncertainty, the
[37:18] lack of trust. I mean, the world this is
[37:20] fourth turning stuff, right? The world
[37:22] is changing in front of our eyes.
[37:25] And so, the US government is solving
[37:27] this problem by issuing it on the front
[37:29] end, which is fine,
[37:32] but it's much more stimulative, much
[37:34] more stimulative. And so,
[37:37] we're seeing,
[37:39] and I'll get to this in a second,
[37:41] Bitcoin, markets want to move.
[37:43] Volatility is coming. That's why I
[37:45] titled this hold on to your butt, clench
[37:48] those cheeks.
[37:49] Hey,
[37:50] not a professional podcaster. You're
[37:52] going to want clench those cheeks and
[37:53] those private keys, because change is
[37:56] cometh. You cannot disrupt the oil
[38:00] markets and everything else be a
[38:01] derivative of energy as we know it and
[38:04] expect no volatility. It is coming. The
[38:07] question is, are we going to get a big
[38:08] whoosh down crash,
[38:11] or are markets going to rip higher
[38:12] because they're going to provide enough
[38:14] liquidity to protect the crash? Now, the
[38:16] answer is, which I'll get into in a
[38:18] second, I don't know. That's why I stay
[38:20] humble and stack sats. That's why I turn
[38:22] on my DCAs.
[38:24] I don't It's not worth our time, in my
[38:26] opinion, to try and trade and spot the
[38:28] lows and sell the highs. That you know,
[38:31] like be productive, do something
[38:34] worthwhile in society and for those
[38:35] around you, provide value on net and
[38:38] then stack sats and stay humble. That's
[38:40] the way to That That That's the That's
[38:42] the the road to the high land. But,
[38:45] anyway,
[38:47] um this tweet caught my eye because I
[38:49] don't think that we've seen
[38:52] the oil shock's impact on the normal
[38:55] American consumer yet. So, with US
[38:58] gasoline prices at $4.45 per gallon,
[39:02] $4.50 imminently and likely $5 per
[39:06] gallon in the near term, a look at how
[39:08] it's impacting the public is in demand.
[39:11] On Wednesday, the New York Fed is going
[39:13] to publish research on the K-shaped
[39:15] pattern in gasoline spending. Get your
[39:17] popcorn out because that is going to
[39:20] spook the public and the political
[39:22] sector over who is bearing the burden of
[39:25] adjustment to the supply shock.
[39:27] So, again, I don't think
[39:30] the I I think that
[39:32] Iran has been ongoing, this oil shock is
[39:35] happening, and I'll tell you who's
[39:37] feeling it before us. Japan, Europe.
[39:41] Japan and Europe look not good. The US
[39:45] actually is a very resource-rich nation.
[39:49] Push comes to shove, the US actually has
[39:52] lots of food, lots of oil now. It
[39:55] doesn't have oil in a way that we can
[39:56] consume it. The US has been very long
[40:00] globalism, short proof of work, and
[40:03] there everyone's starting to realize
[40:05] that doesn't make any sense, really bad
[40:07] strategy. Um
[40:09] start buying Bitcoin, start buying hard
[40:11] assets, start investing in proof of
[40:13] work, whether it's yourself, your your
[40:15] your business, your nation.
[40:17] And the world is starting to reprice
[40:18] what it means to be real, what it means
[40:20] to be hard working, what it means to be
[40:21] productive. Those things are going to be
[40:23] in a perpetual, as far as the eye can
[40:26] see, bull market.
[40:29] Okay?
[40:30] But, theoretically, when it comes to
[40:32] just like
[40:33] pure resources, the US is generally
[40:36] rich. Like the soil that I'm on right
[40:38] now, it does technically have
[40:42] energy resources and food. We just need
[40:44] to start doing the proof of work in
[40:46] making the country self-sustainable.
[40:48] Other countries are not as lucky and in
[40:50] are are in a way worse position, like
[40:52] Japan, a lot of Europe.
[40:55] So, this oil shock, it will hit the US
[40:59] last. I guess the US will will start
[41:02] feeling the pain later.
[41:04] But, it doesn't mean that it's not going
[41:05] to start feeling the pain.
[41:06] And that's the question that I really
[41:08] have or
[41:09] not a question cuz I'm going to stay
[41:10] humble and stack sats either way. But,
[41:12] what I'm watching is is the pain going
[41:15] to result in a financial crisis? Is it
[41:17] going to result in the stock market
[41:18] puking 20% down? Bitcoin likely to fall
[41:21] with it?
[41:22] Or are they giving so much stimulus
[41:25] behind the scenes through issuing
[41:27] T-bills, through the repurchase
[41:31] management agreement Fed expanding
[41:33] balance sheet thingy
[41:35] to where assets are going to start to
[41:36] rip? And I'm really watching Bitcoin to
[41:39] give me hints as to which way the market
[41:42] is going to lean. Because right now,
[41:44] volatility is priced at effectively
[41:46] worthless. The VIX is just not The VIX
[41:48] is not moving. Bond volatility is low.
[41:51] It's ho-hum. It's ho-hum while 20% of
[41:53] the world's oil is offline. That's It's
[41:55] not going to vibe. So,
[41:57] last chapter is the second wave is baked
[41:59] in.
[42:00] This is a chart of US CPI, consumer
[42:05] price index, and this is dating all the
[42:07] way back. Sorry. I know sometimes you
[42:09] guys can't see. So, let me see if I can
[42:11] zoom in.
[42:13] So, this is going all the way to 1950,
[42:15] as you can see here.
[42:17] And it's all the way till today, 2026.
[42:21] And
[42:22] the what I wanted to highlight is as you
[42:24] guys can see over here on the far left
[42:27] up until almost the middle,
[42:29] this is the 1970s. And the 1970s
[42:32] experienced very historic inflation.
[42:35] Look at these giant inflation waves. You
[42:37] had one, and then two, and then this
[42:40] blow-off third inflation. And it's it's
[42:43] no accident that this was coincided with
[42:46] when we severed the backing of the US
[42:49] dollar with gold. Like ruined that
[42:52] relationship. Your dollar was no longer
[42:53] redeemable for gold. Of course, that's
[42:55] highly highly inflationary because it
[42:57] implies a lot of money creation, a lot
[43:00] of credit, a lot of money printing,
[43:02] which if there's more growth in the
[43:04] currency unit than there is in the goods
[43:06] and services that people want to
[43:07] consume, then there's inflation.
[43:11] Another way of saying that that
[43:12] Bitcoiners will understand, if the
[43:14] supply of dollars is growing faster than
[43:16] the supply of Bitcoins, then the price
[43:18] of Bitcoins will inevitably go up.
[43:20] Same thing with eggs, same thing with
[43:22] housing. That's why everything in
[43:24] Bitcoin terms will crash. Bitcoin will
[43:26] go up against everything cuz nothing is
[43:28] scarcer than Bitcoin.
[43:30] And that's why it's the reverse for
[43:32] dollars. Everything will get more
[43:34] expensive in fiat because nothing is
[43:36] growing in supply quite like fiat
[43:38] currency.
[43:40] Now, the question that I have
[43:42] is are we set for the same type of
[43:46] pattern in the 2020s? You can see this
[43:48] little COVID blip right here.
[43:51] But guys,
[43:52] we printed money
[43:54] into oil at negative $40 a barrel during
[43:57] COVID. During COVID, markets were so
[44:00] screwed that you got paid if you could
[44:02] accept a physical barrel of
[44:04] oil. Like someone would pay you to
[44:07] receive oil.
[44:09] Now oil is $120 a barrel as I'm talking
[44:12] to you today.
[44:14] We're going to print money into that?
[44:17] You think you saw inflation in COVID?
[44:19] You haven't seen anything yet. Mind you,
[44:22] I spent years saying we're never going
[44:24] to get close to the Fed's 2% inflation
[44:27] target. They're going to have to
[44:28] readjust and say ah, 2% is not the goal
[44:31] anymore, which they've done. But keep in
[44:33] mind, we haven't even quote-unquote
[44:35] solved the inflation from COVID. That
[44:38] was in 2020. This is 2026.
[44:41] So not only does it look like there's
[44:44] tons of inflation and money printing on
[44:46] the horizon,
[44:48] but they're doing it into a market where
[44:51] oil and energy markets are already
[44:54] almost at all-time highs in the last 20
[44:55] years, this century.
[44:58] And so
[45:00] I look at the 1970s
[45:03] and we're going to keep updating this
[45:04] chart over the years on this show. It
[45:07] would not surprise me if you saw the
[45:08] same pattern of blip, higher blip,
[45:11] highest blip. We've been through one. I
[45:13] think the second is coming. I think
[45:15] inflation is baked in the cake. It's too
[45:18] late.
[45:19] It's too late.
[45:21] I believe that
[45:24] the US economy is going to quote-unquote
[45:25] run it hot. There's going to be lots of
[45:27] growth,
[45:29] but the price that is going to be paid
[45:31] is inflation.
[45:32] And the only way that the math will work
[45:36] there's some extreme productivity gain
[45:40] like AI.
[45:41] That's obviously the government's hope
[45:43] and why the government has labeled AI a
[45:44] national security threat or national
[45:46] security importance strategy, whatever.
[45:50] Is uh not not only because it probably
[45:53] is, you know, the US wants to be a
[45:55] leader there,
[45:56] but also it needs that level of
[45:58] productivity.
[45:59] Like the US is going to invest
[46:01] everything it can
[46:02] to try and bring like deflationary
[46:06] technology and meet highly inflationary
[46:10] money printing, 100%.
[46:12] So, anyways, let's check in on consumer
[46:15] sentiment. How are the people feeling?
[46:18] Like is Bitcoin interesting? Is it
[46:19] actually solving a problem people have?
[46:21] Are we just sitting in our own little
[46:23] bubble and nobody cares about what we
[46:26] have to say or what we're working on
[46:28] because hard money is just like meh.
[46:30] People would rather not know.
[46:32] So, share of Americans who say their
[46:34] financial situation is getting worse is
[46:37] now all-time high, 55%.
[46:40] Yes, higher than COVID. Yes, higher than
[46:43] the '08 financial crisis, the great
[46:45] financial crisis.
[46:47] Higher than by a lot.
[46:51] This is one of the worst times in recent
[46:54] recorded history
[46:56] financially as an American.
[46:59] If you look on the right, this is the
[47:01] University of Michigan's economic
[47:03] conditions index that they keep track
[47:05] of.
[47:07] Again, lower than COVID, lower than the
[47:10] great financial crisis, lower than 9/11,
[47:13] lower than Black Monday.
[47:16] The average person, the everyday man is
[47:20] in pain.
[47:22] That's why I get up and record this
[47:24] podcast. That's why I founded Strike in
[47:26] 21. That's why we as a community won't
[47:29] stop until we fix the money. This is not
[47:32] only a real problem, it's arguably the
[47:34] largest problem
[47:36] that we all face as a society today,
[47:39] hands down.
[47:40] Because this is only getting worse.
[47:42] Inflation's only going to get worse.
[47:44] People are only going to work even
[47:47] harder but get less.
[47:50] That's the problem facing society. It
[47:52] doesn't matter how hard you work. Just
[47:55] think about how unfair this is.
[47:57] It doesn't matter how hard you work.
[48:00] You're going to get less food, less
[48:02] housing, less vacation, less family,
[48:06] less life expectancy, less everything.
[48:12] How much is the solution to that worth?
[48:16] Money that works, money that serves all,
[48:18] money that serves the people. How much
[48:20] How valuable is that project?
[48:24] And people could call us Bitcoiners
[48:25] crazy, but at the end of the day, that's
[48:26] what we're working on.
[48:28] It's not going to be a perfect journey.
[48:30] It's going to be a bumpy one. It's going
[48:31] to be a volatile one. It's going to be
[48:32] worth it, though.
[48:35] Cuz I'm sitting here and I'm telling you
[48:37] every single consumer survey I read,
[48:39] University of Michigan,
[48:41] Gallup, and the Fed surveys, everything
[48:45] I read,
[48:47] there's never been a worse time
[48:49] to be a working person than today.
[48:54] And that's nothing to do with politics,
[48:56] or wars, or this, or that. Has
[48:58] everything to do with the money. That's
[49:01] it.
[49:02] No man should work for what another man
[49:04] can print. Straight up. It's that
[49:06] simple.
[49:10] And people are out there working, time,
[49:12] energy, effort, labor,
[49:15] for what others are printing out of thin
[49:17] air.
[49:18] And there is human time and energy being
[49:21] robbed in broad daylight. That's just
[49:24] the situation.
[49:26] So, the societal impact, I mean, listen,
[49:29] the upper echelon of
[49:32] what I wrote here, capital, is
[49:34] controlling everything.
[49:36] So, hyper financialization has pushed
[49:40] that's created such a wealth gap, where
[49:42] money is stored traditionally at the
[49:44] top. And hyper financialization has
[49:48] trained
[49:50] people to be so good at seeking out the
[49:53] most productive and the most efficient
[49:55] thing that it's actually killing human
[49:57] labor.
[49:59] So, we're Again, I I brought this up
[50:02] before. Like some of my smartest friends
[50:06] are working on like high-frequency
[50:07] trading algorithms.
[50:09] And it's crazy when you think like from
[50:12] the most base level of logic, like
[50:14] should the brightest, most capable
[50:16] people in society be working on how to
[50:19] arbitrage
[50:21] other people's Robinhood accounts? Like
[50:24] probably not.
[50:25] Like what about mining rare earths? What
[50:28] about
[50:30] building factories again? What about um
[50:33] curing medical diseases? Like what about
[50:36] understanding and doing research on why
[50:38] cancer rates are rising? Like
[50:41] some of our smartest computer scientists
[50:43] are building like leveraged arbitrage
[50:45] strategies on normal people trading
[50:48] stocks.
[50:50] But that's the situation is like when
[50:52] you print so much money and you hyper
[50:54] financialize and it's all about
[50:56] globalization, that's the world you get.
[51:02] That's the world you get.
[51:04] So,
[51:05] going back to markets and what I'm
[51:08] seeing.
[51:09] I found this interesting.
[51:11] Funds are selling while retail is
[51:13] buying. The second largest hedge fund
[51:15] selling in tech in a decade meets the
[51:17] third largest retail fund flow into the
[51:20] QQQ.
[51:21] And so, I think markets are at a
[51:23] crossroads and the level of 80,000 for
[51:27] Bitcoin is critically important cuz it's
[51:30] about break even for a large amount of
[51:33] Bitcoin capital according to these
[51:34] on-chain metrics and stuff. I don't
[51:36] know.
[51:37] But the way I'm seeing it, either
[51:40] Bitcoin's going to be able to defeat
[51:42] this 80,000 level and blast through it,
[51:44] and then things are going to get really
[51:46] bullish really quickly, and I think not
[51:48] only for Bitcoin, but the business cycle
[51:50] is fully back, stocks are fully back. Or
[51:53] Bitcoin will have a tough time
[51:55] reclaiming this 80,000 level, and it's
[51:58] unclear if stocks and Bitcoin don't have
[52:01] one last large puke that are going to
[52:04] require central planning intervention
[52:06] and lots and lots of money printing. Cuz
[52:08] make no mistake, as we've talked about
[52:10] it before, the US can't afford a
[52:12] recession.
[52:13] I mean, it relies too much on consumer
[52:16] spending, on asset prices, on tax on
[52:18] capital gains tax receipts. Like that
[52:21] going through a prolonged recession is
[52:23] not an option.
[52:24] No matter how you slice it, money
[52:26] printing is cometh.
[52:28] In fact, we kind of talked about it,
[52:29] it's already here.
[52:31] It's just an order of operations
[52:33] question. And it's interesting. You're
[52:35] seeing, obviously, funds think there's a
[52:39] puke, retail thinks there's not. You
[52:42] know,
[52:42] are stocks sensitive to oil shocks and
[52:47] commodity disruption? This chart says
[52:49] yes.
[52:51] And so, although Bitcoin and stocks are
[52:53] experiencing a bit of a rebound and a
[52:55] bit of a like the a mini bull, like the
[52:57] last few weeks have been, you know, some
[53:00] some good price gains, are they fully
[53:02] fully fully back? Is the oil shock going
[53:05] to get in the way of persistent bull run
[53:08] without further money printing, without
[53:10] things like yield curve control, without
[53:11] new policy that basically demands
[53:14] inflation and higher asset prices?
[53:18] So, this is kind of the thing that I am
[53:20] watching. And, you know, one of the
[53:21] things cuz at the end of the day, I
[53:23] don't really care. Like, I stay humble
[53:25] and stack sats no matter what. I'll be
[53:26] buying the top forever, I'll be buying
[53:28] the bottom forever, cuz I'll be buying
[53:29] Bitcoin forever. And I'll be buying
[53:31] Bitcoin forever because I'll just be
[53:33] hopefully,
[53:35] as long as I'm healthy and capable, I'll
[53:37] be providing value to society. And I I
[53:40] store my work and my time and my energy
[53:43] and my effort in something that someone
[53:45] else can print out of thin air. I store
[53:47] it in Bitcoin. Just like that's it.
[53:49] Plain and simple. Some people can't seem
[53:50] to conceptually understand that, but
[53:52] that's just how I live my life. Straight
[53:54] up. And so I'll be buying Bitcoin
[53:56] forever no matter the price. So to be
[53:58] totally candid with you guys, it doesn't
[53:59] really matter to me.
[54:01] But [snorts] as I look at markets and
[54:03] look at what's going on in the Middle
[54:05] East and look at what's going on with
[54:06] AI,
[54:07] it's the bull case is this is like 1998
[54:11] all over the all over again. And we're
[54:13] going to experience this massive
[54:15] blow-off of everything piling into the
[54:17] US because Europe is down worse, Japan
[54:20] is down worse.
[54:21] And there's going to be this late cycle
[54:24] blow-off in AI and Bitcoin's going to be
[54:27] the best performer in that environment.
[54:29] And you better pile into Bitcoin now cuz
[54:32] you're never going to get it lower. If
[54:33] that happens, hell yeah. Cuz like I
[54:36] said,
[54:37] I'm I don't have any fiat and I stack
[54:41] with my with my effort with my paychecks
[54:43] with my labor anyways.
[54:45] Now the bear case is that oil shock is
[54:48] too much to overcome. You cannot take
[54:50] 20% of the world's oil offline and just
[54:52] expect the world to be able to overcome
[54:54] that. Uh and so there's going to be
[54:58] credit constraints. We are we've already
[55:00] seen, you know, these
[55:02] uh private credit funds uh halt
[55:05] withdrawals, like the equivalent of
[55:07] such. And that stocks roll over and
[55:10] Bitcoin rolls over.
[55:12] Again, either way, stay humble and stack
[55:14] sats. This is why you don't trade
[55:16] because imagine needing to predict the
[55:19] future in that way.
[55:20] Like what are we, Houdini?
[55:22] Give me a break.
[55:24] Total waste of your time.
[55:26] Just work hard. Just be productive. Just
[55:31] earn more than you spend.
[55:34] In decades, when your kids look up at
[55:36] you and say, "Wow, how'd you do it?" You
[55:38] say, "You know what? I didn't do much."
[55:41] That's the answer. Simplicity is the
[55:42] answer. I worked hard. I didn't spend
[55:45] more than we were making.
[55:46] And I saved in something
[55:48] that protected us. That's it. That's
[55:51] all.
[55:53] Listen, any any show that's going to try
[55:55] and convince you that the solution to
[55:57] your problems is to turn into Superman
[55:59] and defy gravity and defy physics and
[56:01] predict the future, get the [ __ ] out of
[56:03] here.
[56:07] That Bitcoin empowers all. Everybody has
[56:11] the ability to work hard. Everybody has
[56:13] the ability to earn more than they
[56:15] spent. Everybody has the ability to
[56:18] save.
[56:19] It doesn't take You don't got to be a
[56:20] rocket scientist. You don't got to be a
[56:22] freak athlete. You don't got to be a uh
[56:24] Houdini predictor of the future.
[56:30] Focus your time and energy on other
[56:31] parts of life. Fall in love. Have kids.
[56:34] Build relationships. Start a business.
[56:37] Make those things where you expense a
[56:38] lot of your time. Don't spend your time
[56:40] trying to study central bank monetary
[56:43] policy. This stuff, get out of here.
[56:46] Work hard. Stack sats. Stay humble.
[56:48] Stack sats. No fee DCA on Strike.
[56:50] Convert any of your paycheck that
[56:52] converts into Bitcoin, no fee on Strike.
[56:54] That's why we do it.
[56:57] So, last thing I just wanted to point
[56:59] out, Bitcoin and software are still
[57:01] marching to the same tune.
[57:03] So, again, Bitcoin now, granted, credit
[57:06] where credit's due, Bitcoin has
[57:08] outperformed
[57:09] since the crisis started. It has
[57:11] outperformed software. It's outperformed
[57:12] gold. It's outperformed silver. It's
[57:14] outperformed it all, everything except
[57:15] oil.
[57:16] So, as a Bitcoiner, I'm not thrilled.
[57:19] I'm not like beating my chest because I
[57:22] want Bitcoin to protect my ability to
[57:24] consume energy, and energy right now is
[57:27] going up more than my Bitcoins, right?
[57:30] And so, at the end of the day, I still
[57:31] think Bitcoin has work to do. And it'll
[57:33] do that work. But, it's important to
[57:35] point out that it's not like Bitcoin is
[57:37] separating from risk, separating from
[57:40] tech stocks, and is beating to the tune
[57:42] of its own drum, and is on its way to
[57:45] solving the world's problems yet.
[57:47] Software is experiencing the the same
[57:49] rebound Bitcoin is. And so, like I said,
[57:52] I'm all eyes on Bitcoin. If Bitcoin
[57:55] breaks through 80, 81, 82, and starts to
[57:58] rip towards 90, then we've answered our
[58:00] question.
[58:02] The bull case is back on. If not, and
[58:04] Bitcoin starts to puke, then the oil
[58:06] shock has gotten the best of things, and
[58:08] look out for central planning
[58:09] intervention.
[58:11] Another interesting thing that I thought
[58:12] is worth pointing out is since the
[58:14] conflict started, Bitcoin's been kicking
[58:16] gold's butt.
[58:17] I don't think this is an accident. If
[58:19] you're in crisis, would you rather be
[58:21] lugging around a bunch of bars, or would
[58:24] you rather have 12 words in your brain?
[58:27] And it's not even close. People could
[58:29] say all they want about Bitcoin. The
[58:31] Peter Shifts of the world can talk all
[58:32] the smack they want. At the end of the
[58:34] day, which one's more divisible? Which
[58:36] one's easier to verify? Which one's
[58:37] easier to transport? Which one's cheaper
[58:39] to send? Which one is scarcer?
[58:42] And it's not like these are these are I
[58:44] the the fact that in the history books,
[58:48] my kids are going to have to read that
[58:50] these topics were debated, is silly.
[58:53] It's embarrassing.
[58:54] I mean, one is digital software, and the
[58:57] other is literally a rock we find in the
[58:59] ground.
[59:01] Are you nuts?
[59:04] So, it is worth noting that
[59:08] this trend has reversed. Bitcoin has
[59:10] been kicking gold's butt in crisis,
[59:12] again. Again.
[59:15] Again.
[59:17] Mar- The marginal buyer pushes pushes
[59:20] price higher. Someone that says,
[59:23] "I don't really care what the price of
[59:25] Bitcoin is. I need it. I need it. That's
[59:28] what pushes price higher.
[59:31] People like me push price higher cuz my
[59:33] paychecks just go into Bitcoin no matter
[59:34] what. I don't really care the price.
[59:36] It's always a good price to get some
[59:38] sats.
[59:40] And and when there's conflict in the
[59:41] Middle East, people aren't saying, "Oh,
[59:44] I got to flee to safety. I got to take
[59:47] my wealth out of banks and and and out
[59:50] of centralized companies because I might
[59:52] have to flee my family out of war.
[59:56] >> [sighs]
[59:57] >> But I don't know. I was really hoping to
[59:58] get Bitcoin at 60k." That's not No, no,
[60:00] no.
[60:02] At the end of the day, the best money
[60:03] wins.
[60:07] And
[60:09] that's what I got for today until
[60:10] Grandma Gear. So, here's the deal.
[60:13] All I
[60:14] Hold on to your butts. Hold on to your
[60:16] private keys. Volatility is cometh.
[60:20] And we will see.
[60:22] Are we going to experience a puke? Is
[60:23] Bitcoin going to go on a bull? Don't
[60:25] place that bet. Stay humble and stack
[60:27] sats. Work hard. Earn more than you're
[60:30] consuming, okay?
[60:32] And
[60:34] I don't know. I mean, this fiat system
[60:37] is continues to look untenable.
[60:41] Oil up, bond yields up, bonds getting
[60:44] slaughtered, and societal unrest is on
[60:47] the rise.
[60:49] Like, I mean, I lived through COVID. I
[60:52] mean, I know I was really young, but I
[60:54] know the great financial crisis was
[60:55] devastating. The fact that it's an even
[60:57] worse time now
[61:00] to be an American financially, that's
[61:02] crazy.
[61:04] I mean,
[61:05] I tried not to be too depressing on the
[61:07] show, but when you see near all-time
[61:10] high assassination attempts, political
[61:12] violence, this like socialism versus
[61:15] capitalism war that doesn't look like
[61:16] it's going to end anytime soon.
[61:19] I mean,
[61:21] fiat is rapidly and coming to an end.
[61:24] It's not like the dollar will cease to
[61:25] exist.
[61:27] But, it's purchasing power in energy
[61:28] terms, the market's repricing things
[61:31] like gold, things like Bitcoin, things
[61:33] like manual labor, the death of things
[61:36] like globalism.
[61:38] That seems to be around the corner.
[61:41] These are This is all real fourth
[61:43] turning [ __ ] Make no mistake about it.
[61:48] Okay, grind my gears.
[61:51] Let's get into it. What grinds my gears
[61:53] this week?
[61:54] Prediction markets. I tweeted about it
[61:56] this morning. I couldn't help myself. I
[61:58] got to go on a rant. This from the Wall
[62:00] Street Journal this morning.
[62:02] Why almost everyone loses except a few
[62:04] sharks on prediction market.
[62:07] Let me pull up this data really quick
[62:09] cuz I don't want to get the number
[62:11] wrong.
[62:15] A Wall Street Journal analysis found
[62:17] that 67
[62:19] 67%
[62:21] 67% of Polymarket profits goes to just
[62:24] 0.1%
[62:26] of the accounts, while most traders are
[62:28] in the red. Most Call Sheet users also
[62:30] lose money.
[62:33] It's all so exhausting
[62:35] because here's the problem. Here's the
[62:37] problem I have cuz the title of this
[62:39] slide is Las Vegas in new clothes. This
[62:41] is not financial freedom. This is not
[62:43] financial innovation. This is not
[62:44] anything new.
[62:46] What are prediction markets? Prediction
[62:47] markets are Las Vegas in a new outfit.
[62:50] It's gambling dressed up. Lipstick on a
[62:53] pig.
[62:55] And it's all so tiresome because Satoshi
[62:57] Nakamoto gifted us the greatest, most
[63:01] humble gift
[63:03] humanity's maybe ever seen.
[63:07] This person didn't pre-mine for
[63:09] themselves. They didn't mis-market it.
[63:10] They didn't mislead. Open source for the
[63:13] public. Proof of work. They didn't ask
[63:16] for anything.
[63:17] And we as a community have taken this
[63:20] gift and pushed it forward and propelled
[63:23] it to such heights that it could change
[63:25] the world for the better. Fix the money,
[63:28] fix the world. And you have these
[63:30] grifters that just won't stop. They're
[63:34] relentless with their grift. They never
[63:37] stop. I've been in this industry for
[63:38] almost 14 years and the amount of
[63:42] pre-mined
[63:44] garbage,
[63:45] shitcoins, prediction markets, ICOs,
[63:47] NFTs, meme coins. I mean, you'd think
[63:51] I'm making this up. The amount of scam,
[63:54] fraud, grift.
[63:56] And it's one thing
[63:59] to do to to for Las Vegas to sell sugary
[64:03] cocktails and disgusting seed oils and
[64:07] try and force you and trick you into
[64:08] sitting all day in front of an LED
[64:11] screen and losing your money.
[64:13] At least Las Vegas doesn't pretend that
[64:16] it's Bitcoin. And Las Vegas doesn't
[64:18] pretend that it's financial freedom. And
[64:20] Las Vegas doesn't pretend that it's
[64:22] fighting for prosperity.
[64:24] At least Las Vegas is honest. And Las
[64:27] Vegas is about sex addiction and drug
[64:29] addiction and gambling addiction. And
[64:31] when you get off that plane in Las
[64:32] Vegas, at least they're honest about
[64:34] what you're doing.
[64:38] It's so unethical and immoral these
[64:40] things.
[64:42] How is this financial freedom? Because
[64:44] check this slide out.
[64:46] All of the volume on these things are
[64:48] sports gambling. So, for those of you
[64:50] listening, I mean, I'm looking at this
[64:52] visual and I'm taking a wild guess. Over
[64:54] 90% of the volume on this is sports
[64:57] gambling.
[64:59] Not elections, not politics, not
[65:01] economics. Prediction markets are sports
[65:03] gambling. What are they?
[65:06] They're an arbitra- a legal arbitrage.
[65:08] They're sports gambling regulated by the
[65:09] CFTC.
[65:11] That's what they are.
[65:13] So, they've routed around gambling laws
[65:16] and dressed up Las Vegas and casinos in
[65:19] a new grift.
[65:22] And it's ridiculous. And here's here's
[65:24] the reason it's ridiculous. And people
[65:25] can say, "Oh, what what's it to you to
[65:27] get in the way of someone else's
[65:29] business?" I don't give a [ __ ] about
[65:31] someone else's business. I've no problem
[65:33] with other people being successful and
[65:34] providing value. It's never never been
[65:36] my issue. Here's my issue.
[65:40] Fiat currency turns everyone into a
[65:43] speculator, whether you like it or not,
[65:45] whether you know it or not. Guess what?
[65:49] If you're alive today, if you're working
[65:51] today, and you are forced to use fiat
[65:54] currency, which by the way, if you're
[65:56] American, you are. Cuz guess what? If
[65:58] you don't want to use the dollar,
[66:00] someone will show up to your home with a
[66:02] weapon on their waist and say, "You pay
[66:04] the IRS or you live your life in a box."
[66:07] Do you understand that?
[66:09] So, you are forced to use the dollar. I
[66:12] have to pay my taxes in dollars or I get
[66:14] arrested and I spend my life in a box.
[66:19] So, if you are
[66:21] forced to use fiat, and you are working,
[66:24] and you are getting paychecks, you're a
[66:26] speculator whether you like it or not,
[66:28] because your currency is being debased.
[66:30] And whether you like it or not, whether
[66:31] you want it or not, whether you know it
[66:33] or not,
[66:35] you have to turn your fiat into
[66:38] something else just to survive, just to
[66:40] live a normal life.
[66:43] And so, the mere fact that things like
[66:46] prediction markets have taken the
[66:48] problem that fiat has created and
[66:51] marketed themselves as a solution
[66:54] as part of the new trend, as part of the
[66:56] new system, when it's really just sports
[66:58] gambling dressed up
[67:01] in some distributed decentralized
[67:03] technology fad, is [ __ ] It's
[67:05] garbage.
[67:08] The problem I have and and and what I've
[67:10] always had with all these companies
[67:13] is that they're monetizing
[67:16] the need to speculate.
[67:19] Financial freedom is not betting on meme
[67:21] coins, betting on ICOs, betting on
[67:24] shitcoins, betting on penny stocks,
[67:26] betting on sports. That is Do you guys
[67:29] know honest, sane person can look me in
[67:32] the eye and say we solve fiat to
[67:35] basement by sports betting.
[67:38] That's [ __ ]
[67:40] But they have no problem marketing it as
[67:42] such to the broad public.
[67:46] I mean, I was going back and forth with
[67:47] someone on Twitter that works at one of
[67:49] these companies. I say, "Hey, you know,
[67:50] prediction markets aren't necessarily
[67:52] all bad." I say I asked the guy, "How
[67:55] would you market it ethically?
[67:57] Not to get users, not to trick people
[68:00] into volume, not to optimize for
[68:01] revenue. Would you look like Here's the
[68:04] problem. For some of these businesses,
[68:07] I'd rather my family be investors in
[68:10] these businesses than users. Users on
[68:13] these services lose money.
[68:16] I'd rather people own equity than use
[68:18] the service. How messed up is that? What
[68:20] type of world are we living in where in
[68:22] the people I love in my family, I would
[68:25] rather not actually use the product,
[68:27] just own shares in the business.
[68:33] I'm sorry. It just At a certain point I
[68:36] mean, I've been working my whole adult
[68:38] life on Bitcoin. And when people grift
[68:42] and when people pretend, and it's the
[68:43] same thing with Ethereum, it's the same
[68:46] thing with all these shitcoins, they
[68:47] market themselves as the better Bitcoin,
[68:49] the faster Bitcoin, the more smart
[68:51] contracty Bitcoin, the more
[68:52] decentralized Bitcoin, the this Bitcoin,
[68:55] the that Bitcoin. Get out of our way.
[68:59] Just say you're a more convenient
[69:02] digital Las Vegas." I don't care if you
[69:04] make money. I don't care if people want
[69:05] to use your service. Do not trick them
[69:08] because, as we just went over on this
[69:10] show, consumer sentiment has never been
[69:12] worse.
[69:14] Raising billions of dollars to dress up
[69:16] sports gambling in a new outfit. It's
[69:19] pathetic.
[69:21] Some of us are trying to actually fix
[69:24] the money.
[69:26] And I see people People get so upset
[69:29] that I could possibly disagree with some
[69:32] things that Bitcoin treasury companies
[69:33] are doing. I mean, oh,
[69:35] God forbid. And so, they're tweeting
[69:37] out, "What is Strike good for? Why
[69:40] doesn't everyone just use Coinbase?"
[69:42] What is Strike good for? I'll tell you
[69:43] what Strike is good for. We don't allow
[69:46] people to speculate on junk.
[69:49] If you're a Strike user,
[69:51] you're not losing money. Over the course
[69:53] of time, your wealth is growing. We are
[69:56] building you financial services to
[69:57] survive this era of currency debasement.
[70:00] Our services could not be different more
[70:02] different than these
[70:05] lipstick on a pig speculative casinos. I
[70:09] I mean, if I'm going to be losing money,
[70:11] I might as well take my ass back to
[70:13] [ __ ] Las Vegas and at least lay in
[70:15] the sun by the pool.
[70:21] Grinds my gears to no end. What's the
[70:24] difference between Strike and these
[70:26] casinos? Are you Is that a joke?
[70:30] And it's just not The other thing is,
[70:32] it's not even a long-term strategy.
[70:33] Sometimes some investors used to ask me,
[70:35] "Hey, are you going to list all these
[70:36] things?" No.
[70:38] Why Why would I think that that's a good
[70:40] long-term strategy
[70:42] to in like encourage my customers to
[70:45] participate in things that are
[70:46] eventually going to make them poor?
[70:52] So, 67%
[70:54] of the winnings is going to 0.1% of the
[70:57] users. So, everyone that downloads
[70:59] Polymarket, if they actually use the
[71:01] product or service, they're very likely
[71:03] to get poorer.
[71:05] Right? I mean, I'm not trying to talk
[71:06] [ __ ] I'm just like that's math, right?
[71:08] Am I misunderstanding?
[71:12] So, like if my family members text me
[71:14] like, "Hey, I just downloaded
[71:15] Polymarket." My reaction's going to be
[71:16] like, "Oh, no. No, get off. Get off.
[71:20] That like that's what we're working on?"
[71:26] Just take the grift elsewhere. Take the
[71:28] grift out Leave Bitcoiners out of it.
[71:31] That goes for shitcoins. That goes for
[71:33] penny stocks and G future GME. People
[71:36] asking, "What do you think about
[71:37] GameStop trying to buy eBay?" I don't
[71:39] give a [ __ ]
[71:41] Leave Bitcoiners out of it. We're here
[71:43] to fix the money. We could not be more
[71:45] different than this stuff.
[71:50] All right. I'll cap myself there.
[71:52] You guys got You guys got a good one out
[71:54] of me today. Blood pressure was
[71:56] certainly certainly higher than usual.
[72:01] And with that,
[72:04] let's go to company updates.
[72:06] Um
[72:07] big week for me, obviously. If you guys
[72:10] did not catch my uh
[72:12] keynote
[72:14] at the Las Vegas Bitcoin 2026, highly
[72:17] encourage you check that out. I had a
[72:19] lot to say. I'm not going to be able to
[72:21] recap it perfectly on here, but I'll
[72:22] give it a try.
[72:24] Firstly, um it was an opportunity for me
[72:26] to remind everyone what Strike is. So,
[72:29] during the presentation, I called Strike
[72:31] the global Bitcoin bank.
[72:34] We're not actually a bank cuz that
[72:35] requires a certain license, and I'd get
[72:37] in a lot of trouble if I told you guys
[72:39] we were a bank without the disclaimer
[72:40] that like I don't mean literally.
[72:43] But, I mean you can think of us like
[72:44] one. Why do I say that? Well, you can
[72:46] get your paycheck into Strike. You can
[72:48] pay your bills with Strike. You You buy
[72:50] and sell Bitcoin with Strike. You can
[72:52] get out uh
[72:53] fixed-term loans, so a Bitcoin-backed
[72:55] loan with Strike. We now have this
[72:57] Bitcoin line of credit product, which is
[72:59] one of the most popular products we
[73:01] have. It's like a HELOC, but for your
[73:03] Bitcoin. So, you can open a line of
[73:06] credit. You don't actually get charged
[73:08] anything until you use the line of
[73:09] credit. And the way I use the product is
[73:12] I get my paychecks into Strike, I pay my
[73:13] bills with Strike, and I pay my bills
[73:15] with my Bitcoin line of credit. So,
[73:16] every time I have a bill that's pulling
[73:19] from my Strike account, so let's say
[73:21] like my HOA on my house or my credit
[73:23] card bill or my Comcast electricity
[73:25] bill, every time a bill pulls from my
[73:28] Strike account, which is my primary
[73:30] financial account, Strike uses my line
[73:32] of credit. So, it extends like, "Oh,
[73:34] your credit card bill was a couple
[73:35] grand?" And it adds to my line of credit
[73:38] and pays it off. And that way, I'm never
[73:40] selling Bitcoin. My paychecks come in,
[73:41] I'm stacking Bitcoin, and as the Bitcoin
[73:43] price goes up, I'm able to refinance
[73:45] these loans or sometimes I'll take some
[73:47] of my paycheck or I get a bonus or
[73:49] something, and I'll pay down the line of
[73:50] credit. And it's just like the dream
[73:53] product, cuz I'm constantly stacking,
[73:55] I'm never forced to sell, but I'm also
[73:58] not having to take out these massive
[73:59] 12-month loans all at once. And it's
[74:02] like uh
[74:03] it's like a open revolving working
[74:06] capital credit line to live my life on
[74:08] top of my Bitcoins. It's like the best.
[74:11] Uh and on top of that, we have
[74:14] all sorts of awesome features like
[74:16] no-fee DCA, free on-chain withdrawals.
[74:19] So, and you can I mean, if you
[74:20] conceptually think of us like a global
[74:23] Bitcoin bank, you can imagine what our
[74:26] future probably looks like. So, as I've
[74:27] talked about publicly, we're super
[74:30] interested in working on giving our
[74:32] customers yield on their cash, yield on
[74:34] their deposits on the platform.
[74:36] Customers have actually asked us if we
[74:38] can come up with different options if
[74:40] they want to opt into yield on their
[74:42] Bitcoin even, which I've taken a closer
[74:44] look at. We we're able to generate
[74:46] pretty good returns on our lightning
[74:48] network infrastructure. Maybe there's
[74:50] opportunities for us to to share that
[74:51] with customers. Um and you know, looking
[74:55] at potentially offering a strike card.
[74:57] There there's all sorts of things and
[74:59] you can kind of tell, you know, we are
[75:01] building a primary financial account for
[75:04] businesses, for individuals. We even
[75:06] have API services for developers and for
[75:08] future AI agents, but built on top of
[75:11] new monetary infrastructure with Bitcoin
[75:14] at the corn center of it. So, that's who
[75:15] we are. You know, I don't run any ads on
[75:18] this podcast. So, if you ever want to
[75:20] support me, you just be a customer of my
[75:22] services. Um
[75:24] and what we announced last week was all
[75:27] around strike lending. So, strike also
[75:29] uniquely, I think is there's a lot of
[75:32] Bitcoin backed lending companies.
[75:34] There's a lot of Bitcoin brokerage
[75:35] companies that let you buy and sell
[75:37] Bitcoin.
[75:38] There's I don't know if there's many
[75:40] companies that do all of it.
[75:43] And so, strike is probably one of the
[75:44] more multifaceted Bitcoin accounts you
[75:47] can have today.
[75:49] And so, we have, like I said, brokerage.
[75:51] We have some banking services like
[75:53] direct deposit and bill pay. We also
[75:55] have lending services, which is now
[75:57] fixed-term loans and Bitcoin line of
[75:59] credit. I think we're the only Bitcoin
[76:01] company that offers both of those, which
[76:04] is really cool. And we made a ton of
[76:06] announcements around that part of our
[76:07] business, around the lending part. The
[76:09] lending strike lending's the fastest
[76:11] growing product I've ever launched in
[76:13] Bitcoin. And I've been working on
[76:14] Bitcoin for a long time.
[76:16] I I mean, I it's obvious in hindsight,
[76:18] it always is, but
[76:21] I mean, the the biggest product market
[76:23] fit I've ever built is allowing people
[76:26] to live on their Bitcoin without having
[76:28] to sell it.
[76:29] Like, Bitcoin's number goes up if you
[76:31] hold it long enough and people are
[76:33] building real wealth. Like, for many of
[76:35] our customers, bit their Bitcoin is like
[76:38] 50, 60, 70, 80, 90% of their net worth
[76:41] and they want to get a house. They want
[76:43] to put their kid through school. They
[76:44] want, you know,
[76:46] emergency cash because there was a
[76:48] medical issue, but they don't want to
[76:50] sell the Bitcoin. And so, coming up with
[76:52] all sorts of different products that
[76:53] allow their newfound wealth to benefit
[76:56] their everyday life without having to
[76:58] necessarily part with the sats and incur
[77:00] a taxable gains event and stuff. Like,
[77:03] that has been the fastest growing
[77:04] product I've ever built and launched by
[77:07] far. So, anyways,
[77:09] what did we announce? One,
[77:11] we announced this idea of what we call
[77:13] volatility-proof loans. These are loans
[77:15] where we don't liquidate you. So, you
[77:17] pay an upfront fee cuz obviously it's
[77:19] not going to be a free product. You pay
[77:21] an upfront fee, and then we remove the
[77:23] ability to liquidate you. So, we take
[77:25] the money that you give us upfront, and
[77:27] we actually have built out trading
[77:29] strategies to hedge ourselves. We take
[77:31] on that risk for you because the biggest
[77:33] thing people say is, "Jack, what just
[77:36] keeps me up at night is what if, you
[77:37] know, Trump tweets out something
[77:39] controversial and Bitcoin wicks down,
[77:41] and then you liquidate me, and I lose
[77:42] all my Bitcoin collateral?" And I get
[77:44] it. I mean, I like I want you guys to be
[77:47] able to live the best life possible on
[77:50] the best money possible. That's what I
[77:51] consider my job. I work for you guys at
[77:53] the end of the day.
[77:54] And
[77:56] this is the top request is, "Can we have
[77:58] a product where we don't liquidate?" And
[78:00] so, we built it. Right now, we're doing
[78:03] it on an OTC basis. So, we're not
[78:05] necessarily putting it in the app just
[78:07] yet.
[78:09] You guys will see. This is how I like to
[78:10] build products cuz I like to minimize
[78:12] the amount of guessing that I do cuz at
[78:14] the end of the day, my job isn't to try
[78:16] and guess the future. My job is to
[78:18] listen to you all and build what you
[78:20] want. And so, we have it on an OTC
[78:22] basis. You can reach out to
[78:23] private@strike.me if you're interested
[78:26] in one of these loans. It's a ton of
[78:28] demand so far. It's the most popular
[78:29] thing that we announced is the idea that
[78:31] people can open a loan with us and not
[78:32] get liquidated. And so, and we're doing
[78:35] it in partnership with Tether.
[78:36] Um, and
[78:38] so you can reach out to
[78:39] private@strike.me.
[78:41] I would say over the next few weeks or
[78:43] month or so, once we kind of really
[78:46] understand where we want to price it,
[78:48] and we get a bit more comfortable, we'll
[78:50] put it in the app. But really, really
[78:52] excited about that. We also have an
[78:54] option to segregate your collateral in a
[78:56] separate address. So people have said,
[78:58] "Hey, if you're truly not
[79:00] rehypothecating, if the Bitcoin's truly
[79:02] sitting there, do you mind putting my
[79:03] collateral in a Bitcoin address where
[79:05] it's sitting there on its own that I can
[79:07] just stare at all day whenever I want
[79:09] just to be sure." And we're like, "Yeah,
[79:11] of course. There's no rehypothecation,
[79:13] there's no funny business. The Bitcoin
[79:14] is just sitting here as collateral, and
[79:17] absolutely. So if customers are
[79:19] interested in that, also you can reach
[79:20] out to us. We're going to start at I
[79:23] believe it's
[79:25] It's I forget the threshold that we're
[79:27] going to do immediately, but it's for
[79:29] larger size. Cuz here's the thing, I
[79:31] don't want to have $10 worth of Bitcoin
[79:34] all sitting in separate addresses.
[79:35] That's tons of UTXOs to manage for us.
[79:38] So what we're curious is how much
[79:40] inbound we get, like how many people
[79:42] want their collateral sitting in a
[79:44] separate address, and seeing if we can
[79:46] set a reasonable threshold of whether
[79:48] you qualify for that or not. Cuz like I
[79:49] said, it's untenable to do $10
[79:53] segregated collateral.
[79:55] Another announcement, lending. So we
[79:58] have some form of a lending product in
[80:00] pretty much every state in the United
[80:01] States. So that is Bitcoin back loans
[80:04] for businesses, Bitcoin back loans for
[80:05] individuals, and line of credit. And
[80:07] line of credit is for both individuals
[80:09] and businesses. And so we added 15 new
[80:11] states for our line of credit rollout.
[80:14] We're now in over 40 states with our
[80:15] line of credit across the United States
[80:17] of America, including New York. We have
[80:19] our bit license. So we went from in less
[80:23] than a year
[80:24] announcing this product in a beta to
[80:26] being one of the largest retail and
[80:29] business Bitcoin back loan providers in
[80:31] the market, and now with multiple
[80:33] different products. We have volatility
[80:35] proof loans, we have Bitcoin line of
[80:36] credit, we have fixed term loans, and
[80:38] we're just getting started. So, that's
[80:40] cool. We launched our first iteration of
[80:43] proof of reserves. So, external audit
[80:45] will do quarterly that ensures our
[80:48] uh lending proof of reserves are there,
[80:51] and we are who we say we are.
[80:53] Uh I just want to touch on this real
[80:55] quick.
[80:55] You know,
[80:56] I've always said the best form of proof
[80:58] of reserves is just withdrawing your
[81:00] Bitcoin. And when people buy Bitcoin on
[81:02] Strike, they can always withdraw, and
[81:03] they can withdraw for free. I think
[81:05] we're one of the rare services that lets
[81:06] you withdraw for free, unlimited,
[81:09] anytime, any place, anywhere, doesn't
[81:11] matter.
[81:12] But when you post collateral for a loan,
[81:14] I can't let you withdraw that. And so, I
[81:17] did think it was warranted of like when
[81:19] people say, "Hey, can we get, you know,
[81:21] some proof of reserves product for our
[81:23] collateral cuz I can't withdraw that?"
[81:25] So, yeah, absolutely. That makes a ton
[81:27] of sense. So, this is the first
[81:28] iteration. It'll only get better from
[81:30] here, but that lives now on our website.
[81:32] You can go find that. It's public. And
[81:34] then the last is we lowered our rates.
[81:36] So, we want to be one of, if not the
[81:39] cheapest in the industry, not for any
[81:41] other reason than we want to be the most
[81:43] accessible way to get credit against
[81:44] your Bitcoin that's also trustworthy,
[81:47] that also is just an amazing product.
[81:49] Like I said, it's not only Bitcoin back
[81:51] lending, but it's also Bitcoin banking,
[81:53] it's also Bitcoin brokerage. We're going
[81:55] to continue to try and build the dream
[81:57] financial account for a business, for an
[81:59] individual, for anyone really in the
[82:03] world. I mean, we're already operative
[82:05] in 100 markets. I'm not I know a lot of
[82:07] this is US related, but
[82:09] I said Europe Q2 for us. Europe's going
[82:12] to be big. UK, we're hoping to get
[82:14] lending there very shortly. Australia
[82:16] has been a big market for us. So, yeah,
[82:19] really big week for Strike. Oh, and
[82:23] how could I forget? The last one, uh we
[82:24] have a new $2.1 billion credit facility.
[82:27] And obviously the 2.1 is for the memes.
[82:29] It's for more jokes, but basically
[82:32] Tether
[82:33] I the the hardest thing for Bitcoin
[82:35] lending is who's financing the capital,
[82:38] right? I don't think there's any
[82:39] shortage of Bitcoiners. Bitcoin is now a
[82:41] $1.6 trillion asset, right? So, there's
[82:44] a lot of money that wants to borrow fiat
[82:47] against this newfound wealth, against
[82:49] this new pristine collateral. You know
[82:51] the age-old sailor never sell, right?
[82:54] But,
[82:55] the question is who's giving Bitcoiners
[82:56] the fiat?
[82:58] And that's not that easy.
[83:00] Because, you know, there's lots of
[83:01] things people can do with fiat. They
[83:03] could buy US Treasury bonds and get now
[83:06] yields are up and get 5% back. They
[83:08] could put their money in a money market
[83:10] fund. They could do all They could buy
[83:12] Nvidia stock. They could buy Bitcoin
[83:13] themselves. Why would they give you fiat
[83:16] instead of buying Bitcoin themselves if
[83:17] Bitcoin's a 30 k or asset? And so, I
[83:20] went to Tether and said, "Hey, there's a
[83:22] shortage of dollars out here. Like,
[83:24] until the US government is implicitly
[83:27] backing Bitcoin backed loans like they
[83:29] are mortgage rates,
[83:31] it's going to be hard for me to find
[83:33] billions and billions and billions of
[83:34] dollars as our products continue to
[83:36] grow. And that's where you get into
[83:38] expensive terms is when the the fiat
[83:41] gets scarce and it's hard to find and
[83:43] the only capital we can find is
[83:45] expensive. And so, I went to Tether and
[83:47] said, "I mean, I know you guys are
[83:49] Bitcoiners. Like, what do you think
[83:51] about helping out the industry?" And
[83:53] they said, "Easy. Done. Like, how much
[83:55] do you need? Like, just try us. Let's
[83:58] like we got Bitcoin's back." And so, we
[84:01] came up with the $2.1 billion number
[84:03] just cuz it's a meme, but as soon as we
[84:05] blow through that, we'll go back and
[84:07] we'll get more. But, the point of that
[84:09] is people should know how large our
[84:13] scale is. Like, there's no loan I can't
[84:16] fill. There's no customer I can't serve.
[84:19] Um this is not We don't do $10 loans. We
[84:23] we can do any size, any scale. We have
[84:26] massive businesses on our platform and
[84:28] we have everyday mom and pops on our
[84:30] platform.
[84:31] Um and so shout out to Tether for that.
[84:33] I mean that that was real Bitcoiner [ __ ]
[84:35] right there cuz uh like I said, it's not
[84:37] easy to find fiat to finance the stuff
[84:40] for you guys and the fact that I was
[84:42] able to just give them a call and
[84:44] they're like easy done, name your number
[84:46] like that. It was really meaningful uh
[84:48] to me and huge support. So
[84:51] that's also really cool. I don't know
[84:52] how many companies can say
[84:54] they have billions of dollars sitting
[84:56] just, you know, waiting for you guys to
[84:58] want to borrow it.
[85:00] And then on the 21 side, so I finally
[85:03] was able to talk to you guys more about
[85:05] my vision.
[85:06] Uh very excited about that. I know a
[85:09] long time coming um but, you know, a lot
[85:12] of this uh was the MNPI as they call it.
[85:16] Um I I can't be, you know, talking too
[85:19] much if the market doesn't know. So
[85:21] Tether published a blog post that they
[85:23] propose a merger between Strike, my
[85:27] other business, and 21
[85:29] amongst other things like a merger with
[85:30] their mining business.
[85:32] Um I gave my thoughts as the CEO of the
[85:34] company.
[85:35] Uh in my opinion, I think it's largely a
[85:38] good idea. I mean, there's lots of
[85:40] details and I can't sit here and say I
[85:42] agree with every single fine print
[85:43] detail, but directionally, I think it's
[85:46] a great idea and I think it's a great
[85:47] idea cuz I think the ideal Bitcoin
[85:49] company, the dream Bitcoin company
[85:51] I outlined in outlined in my
[85:53] presentation looks like this. So I made
[85:55] this kind of
[85:57] quad graph here
[85:59] where on one side of the spectrum, you
[86:00] have extremely low conviction in Bitcoin
[86:03] and on the right side of the spectrum,
[86:05] you have extremely high conviction in
[86:06] Bitcoin.
[86:07] And on the bottom side of the spectrum,
[86:09] you have extremely low operating income
[86:10] as a business.
[86:12] And on the top side of the spectrum, you
[86:13] have extremely high operating income as
[86:15] a business. And I think
[86:17] to understand where I'm coming from at
[86:20] when I view the industry and how I want
[86:23] 21 to develop and where I want it to
[86:25] grow as a company,
[86:27] I think on one side of the spectrum,
[86:30] you have crypto exchanges.
[86:32] And these exchanges make tons of money.
[86:35] They are economically such good
[86:38] companies. Like you're talking about
[86:40] billions of dollars of net profit.
[86:42] They're growing 10, 20, 30%
[86:45] year-over-year. So I put them in the top
[86:47] left quadrant because they are high
[86:49] operating income. However, the reason I
[86:52] don't want to build a business like
[86:54] that, I wouldn't want to work for a
[86:55] business like that, I personally
[86:57] wouldn't want to be a customer of a
[86:58] business like that, is they display
[87:01] extremely low or no conviction in
[87:03] Bitcoin at all.
[87:05] I'm getting Slack messages. I just want
[87:06] to make sure it's not Dylan.
[87:08] Yep, all good.
[87:09] >> [snorts]
[87:09] >> Um
[87:11] these businesses don't seem to really
[87:13] care about Bitcoin. Like I cited in my
[87:15] talk, Coinbase is holding almost $11
[87:18] billion in cash and fiat right now
[87:20] versus a billion dollars in Bitcoin. And
[87:22] I'm like, wait, what the hell? Do you
[87:23] guys even believe in what we're working
[87:25] on? That's a lot of fiat compared to
[87:27] Bitcoin. I thought we all thought
[87:28] Bitcoin was better money.
[87:30] Um and as I talked about before, these
[87:32] prediction markets, it doesn't seem like
[87:35] they care much about Bitcoin and hard
[87:37] money and encouraging proper savings.
[87:41] It's more like speculative casino
[87:43] behavior. And so I put them in the top
[87:46] left quadrant, which is really, really,
[87:48] really good businesses economically, but
[87:51] so are Las Vegas casinos. Las Vegas
[87:53] casinos are good businesses, but they're
[87:56] not Bitcoin businesses, and so very low
[87:58] conviction in Bitcoin.
[88:00] Now in the bottom right quadrant, I
[88:02] would position oppositely treasury
[88:04] companies,
[88:05] which again,
[88:06] also good businesses. Some of the
[88:08] greatest success stories in Bitcoin are
[88:10] treasury companies, like strategy, like
[88:13] Metaplanet. I mean, these are some of
[88:16] the rare success stories in trying to
[88:18] build a business in this space.
[88:20] However, there's no operating income. Um
[88:23] they're not producing cash flow, and
[88:26] there's a difference between,
[88:28] you know, GAAP accounting, unrealized
[88:30] gains on your balance sheet versus cash
[88:33] flow. Um and
[88:35] that's, you know, operating income is
[88:37] building products and having revenue and
[88:40] having cash flow and income. Uh and and
[88:44] you can use that cash to then finance
[88:46] things like leverage, finance things
[88:48] like preferreds, finance all sorts of
[88:50] stuff.
[88:51] And so, anyways, my dream
[88:54] as a founder and a CEO
[88:56] is to be in the top right quadrant, and
[88:58] that's where I don't think any company
[89:00] is, which is both
[89:02] an incredibly high operating income
[89:04] business, has customers, has cash flow,
[89:06] has products, and it also displays
[89:08] extremely high conviction in Bitcoin.
[89:11] And I think that there are opportunities
[89:13] there to do that.
[89:14] And that's where I'd like to see 21
[89:16] focus and where I agree with Tether's
[89:18] proposal, our larger shareholder.
[89:21] Um
[89:22] and so, I kind of laid out these four
[89:24] divisions. You can almost think of 21
[89:27] almost like a
[89:28] Bitcoin Berkshire Hathaway in a way.
[89:30] It's not a perfect analogy, but the idea
[89:33] is 21 has a financial services division,
[89:36] and this is our ability to build and
[89:39] distribute Bitcoin financial services
[89:41] for the Bitcoin economy. And this is
[89:43] where the theoretical merger with Strike
[89:46] would make a lot of sense, cuz Strike
[89:48] could be that arm, where you have
[89:52] brokerage, you have banking, you have
[89:53] custody, you have payments, you have
[89:55] lending and credit, you have all sorts
[89:57] of financial services that can produce
[90:00] cash flow and scale and experience
[90:02] growth, where ultimately, if I think
[90:04] Bitcoin's going to be a asset worth tens
[90:06] of trillions of dollars, there's a lot
[90:08] of opportunity to build services and
[90:10] build products. And I don't want to just
[90:12] stack Bitcoin on a balance sheet. I want
[90:14] to build tools and I I want to have
[90:16] customers and I want to be able to
[90:19] obtain leverage in the capital markets
[90:21] and finance it with cash flow as a as
[90:23] opposed to dilution. And so financial
[90:26] services is would be one arm
[90:27] theoretically. Another Bitcoin
[90:29] infrastructure. And for me, this is the
[90:31] physical economy of Bitcoin. So, this is
[90:35] power contracts. These are miners. These
[90:37] are sites. These are physical
[90:39] infrastructure that both protects and
[90:42] mines and propagates the Bitcoin
[90:44] network. And this is also historically
[90:47] one of the rare places in the Bitcoin
[90:48] economy that's proven to be cash flow
[90:51] positive and a good business if you have
[90:54] the capital and the economies of scale
[90:56] to pull it off, which Tether does.
[90:58] They've invested a ton of money and a
[91:00] ton of resources into their own Bitcoin
[91:03] physical Bitcoin infrastructure
[91:04] business. And they think it'd be a good
[91:07] idea to merge it into 21. So,
[91:10] that to me, I think also for the dream
[91:12] Bitcoin company,
[91:14] that is pillar number two. Pillar number
[91:16] three is capital markets. And this is a
[91:17] lot of the Bitcoin treasury company
[91:19] strategy that exists and some more. So,
[91:22] yes, let's take a look at an ability to
[91:25] raise cheap capital, acquire very
[91:27] reasonable leverage with Bitcoin on our
[91:30] balance sheet. I mean, 21 already has
[91:32] 43,514
[91:33] Bitcoin. We can absolutely use the
[91:35] capital markets to our advantage to
[91:37] display further Bitcoin conviction. But,
[91:40] because we would have other, in theory,
[91:43] other products and services like
[91:44] lending, like mining, we can securitize
[91:47] lending in the capital markets. We can
[91:49] securitize mining in the capital
[91:50] markets. We can do things that other
[91:53] companies can't because if we can pull
[91:56] off the ability to live in this upper
[91:58] white quadrant, it makes us incredibly
[92:00] unique. And so,
[92:03] the third pillar is a capital markets
[92:05] business, which is, you know, very
[92:06] separate than financial services and
[92:08] Bitcoin infrastructure. And this
[92:10] business is focused on accretive
[92:12] strategies in the capital markets and
[92:14] further entrenching Bitcoin into the
[92:17] capital markets. Again, not only with
[92:19] things like preferreds, things like
[92:22] uh convertible bonds, but also things
[92:25] like securitizing some of the things to
[92:27] the left. And then the last one is
[92:29] mergers and acquisitions where
[92:31] I've been an entrepreneur in the space
[92:32] for a long time. I know tons of other
[92:34] really good businesses. I know tons of
[92:36] other really good assets in the space.
[92:38] And I think that there's a lot of
[92:39] opportunity to consolidate some of the
[92:42] Bitcoin efforts. Like, I don't believe
[92:44] that there's going to be 44 Bitcoin
[92:46] companies that all offer the same
[92:48] products. I think inevitably, you know,
[92:51] we're going to end up consolidating. And
[92:53] And whether that's through M&A or other
[92:55] forms. And I've seen lots of opportunity
[92:59] that I think would benefit 21. And 21
[93:01] would be unique in this capacity because
[93:03] again, there are If I go back to this
[93:06] slide, you know, there are companies in
[93:08] the bottom right that aren't necessarily
[93:10] focusing on their operating business or
[93:12] building products or focusing on cash
[93:14] flow. And then the ones in the left
[93:15] don't really care to display conviction
[93:18] in Bitcoin. They'd rather It's more like
[93:20] speculative. They'll list anything.
[93:22] They'll list stocks, they'll list
[93:23] prediction markets, they'll list
[93:24] gambling, they'll list whatever as long
[93:26] as people are on the platform and
[93:28] betting on stuff. And so I think 21 has
[93:31] a unique opportunity because Tether and
[93:33] I are proven operators in the space.
[93:36] Uh and
[93:37] I think we can make use of some
[93:40] accretive M&A and really build like a
[93:42] Bitcoin powerhouse is really the goal.
[93:45] Uh a unique one at that. So,
[93:48] check out my keynote. Um
[93:50] I spent a little bit more time there. Um
[93:52] and just to be clear, uh I I said in a
[93:54] podcast that I think comes out on
[93:56] Wednesday. This is a proposed
[93:58] transaction.
[93:59] No one should interpret my words as if
[94:01] this is already done or anything has
[94:04] been signed.
[94:05] Uh our largest shareholder proposed it.
[94:08] Ultimately, that has to go to the board
[94:11] and there are theoretically a lot lots
[94:15] of, you know, negotiations and all sorts
[94:17] of stuff that would follow. Um but the
[94:22] the big news is that our largest
[94:23] shareholder and the CEO, which is me, um
[94:27] have a strategic direction that they're
[94:29] aligned on and really excited about. Um
[94:32] and so we'll see from there. But uh you
[94:34] guys know the type of man I am. I'm all
[94:36] about transparency and making sure I'm
[94:39] accessible and uh just trying to be man
[94:41] of the people at the end of the day. Um
[94:44] and so wanted to spend a little time
[94:46] walking you guys through that and uh
[94:49] giving you enough information to
[94:50] hopefully ask questions for Q&A, which
[94:53] can start right now.
[94:55] So let me uh turn on some lights really
[94:57] quick. I just realized it got real dark
[94:58] in here.
[94:59] And uh we'll do some Q&A. I'll pull up
[95:01] Dylan's uh
[95:03] doc. Let me blow myself up. There we go.
[95:08] And let me turn on some lights. I'll be
[95:09] right back.
[95:21] >> [snorts]
[95:28] [snorts]
[95:35] >> All right. Let's do this.
[95:38] Pull up Dylan's doc.
[95:42] Shout out Dylan for hanging out in the
[95:43] chat
[95:44] and uh
[95:46] jotting down questions for us.
[95:50] Um
[95:52] Okay.
[95:54] Hey Jack, what's your view on fixing the
[95:56] mortgage rate and for how long?
[95:59] Hmm, not sure
[96:02] I understand that question entirely. I
[96:05] mean the view on fixing the mortgage
[96:06] rate, things like the 10-year and
[96:08] 30-year yields
[96:10] are really important in the ability for
[96:13] banks to offer cheap mortgage. At the
[96:15] end of the day, a mortgage is just a
[96:17] loan.
[96:18] And so, it all goes into what's the cost
[96:21] of money, you know, are interest rates
[96:23] going to lower, are bond yields going to
[96:25] lower?
[96:26] So, if
[96:28] the United States wants to get mortgage
[96:30] rates lower, they're going to have to
[96:32] get bond yields lower. And keep in mind
[96:35] again, bond yields go up when demand for
[96:38] bonds goes down. So, demand has been
[96:41] going down, yields have been going up,
[96:43] and if there's no one that's going to
[96:45] provide demand for bonds, who's the
[96:47] lender of last resort? The Federal
[96:49] Reserve. And so, my best guess is you're
[96:52] going to get some form of like yield
[96:53] curve control, which is the Federal
[96:55] Reserve basically lending to the US
[96:58] government, which is printing money out
[96:59] of thin air and handing it to the
[97:00] government. If that's how they want to
[97:02] get yields down, cuz otherwise they're
[97:03] going to have to entice people to want
[97:05] to lend to the US, but I mean the
[97:07] market's pretty clear. I'd rather own
[97:09] gold, I'd rather own Bitcoin, I'd rather
[97:11] own stocks. There's a plethora of things
[97:12] I'd rather do than lend to the US right
[97:14] now. Um and so, we'll see, but that
[97:18] that's the path to getting mortgage
[97:20] rates lower is getting uh these these
[97:22] yields lower.
[97:24] Uh Dylan, question for Jack.
[97:26] Jack, what do you think about Powell's
[97:27] recent comments that he is going to stay
[97:29] on the Fed board for a while?
[97:31] Uh it's all political. I don't know. I
[97:35] try and
[97:37] I'm like caring far less about that
[97:39] stuff. Um it just doesn't make for the
[97:41] most fun show. I found like a lot of the
[97:44] comments and a lot and a lot of like my
[97:47] back and forth with you guys. All it's
[97:49] always fun, but it just was like
[97:52] negative and no one I don't know. No one
[97:55] wants like a political podcast. And and
[97:57] the funny thing is is I'm not a
[97:58] political guy. Like I genuinely I'm not
[98:01] like putting on a farce here. Like I'm
[98:03] genuinely never voted, don't know much
[98:06] about politics, just trying to follow
[98:09] the X's and O's to get a good sense of
[98:11] where the world is going and how I can
[98:13] help. Um so, I don't know whether Powell
[98:17] stays on the board or not.
[98:19] I don't think it matters. I mean Warsh
[98:21] was nominated in my opinion cuz he's
[98:24] willing to do Trump's doing and he's
[98:26] uh comes from the same
[98:29] um like community as Scott Bessent.
[98:33] That's These are all Druckenmiller,
[98:35] Soros guys.
[98:37] And they all have the same vision that
[98:39] the Fed's independence should be
[98:40] reevaluated, that AI
[98:43] uh needs a lot of money printing, that
[98:45] they can look past the near-term
[98:46] inflation of this Iran conflict. So, I I
[98:50] at the end of the day I don't think it
[98:51] matters. The math is the math and a lot
[98:53] of this political We know that Biden was
[98:55] highly political. Um he was willing to
[98:58] cut rates randomly
[99:01] uh during the end of Biden's term. Um
[99:03] but then like got in fights with Trump
[99:06] and I don't know, whatever. So, my
[99:08] my answer is it doesn't matter. The math
[99:10] is the math. They have to print money. I
[99:13] don't I don't think it's worth spending
[99:16] time trying to dissect what these
[99:18] politicians are rambling on about. Um
[99:22] They're They're They're no good no
[99:24] matter what.
[99:26] At least for monetary policy. Maybe
[99:29] they're good people. I I wouldn't know.
[99:31] When you bring up trading, you say they
[99:33] are not productive. If traders are not
[99:36] productive, how do you explain price
[99:37] discovery and liquidity existing at all
[99:40] in a functioning market without them.
[99:42] >> [snorts]
[99:43] >> I wouldn't say that they're not
[99:44] productive.
[99:45] I would say that
[99:48] it's not productive for everyone to be a
[99:50] trader. Like the problem is
[99:53] trading is a profession, just like being
[99:56] a doctor, just like being an athlete,
[99:59] just like being a teacher, just like
[100:01] being a firefighter.
[100:03] If you're not a trader, and that's not
[100:06] what you do for a living,
[100:08] then you shouldn't trade.
[100:11] So, I'm not saying that like the
[100:12] profession of providing liquidity and
[100:14] price discovery in a market is a bad
[100:16] thing.
[100:17] But, what I am saying is
[100:20] fiat forces everyone to be a speculator,
[100:22] everyone to be a trader, and one of the
[100:25] worst
[100:26] things that comes of that,
[100:27] unfortunately,
[100:29] is now you have a society where only
[100:32] half of our time as a collective society
[100:34] is spent on doing our profession.
[100:36] So, people, let's say you take a doctor,
[100:39] a doctor dad who has a family of four,
[100:42] him, his wife, and two kids. Let's say
[100:44] that for example's sake.
[100:47] This doctor in this modern-day era is
[100:49] spending less time being a doctor and
[100:52] being a dad and more time managing a
[100:55] portfolio, understanding what tech
[100:57] stocks to pick, reading books about
[101:00] Bitcoin. And that's a That's the true
[101:02] crime uh of society is that
[101:06] you have to be a speculator and you have
[101:08] to be a trader just to beat inflation,
[101:11] and that's making us worse at our jobs,
[101:13] that's making us worse husbands, worse
[101:16] fathers.
[101:17] But, we don't have a choice because our
[101:19] lives are being debased, and it's a job
[101:22] within itself to try and beat inflation.
[101:25] And so, my message is is less that a
[101:28] certain profession isn't productive. I
[101:30] mean, depends on the context. Is this
[101:32] person a good trader? Are they
[101:33] professional trader, right? That's It's
[101:35] my place. I'm not talking literally.
[101:37] Talking more philosophically that
[101:40] I encourage people to spend more time on
[101:42] relationship, on family, and on their
[101:45] passion, and on their craft, and on
[101:48] their labor
[101:49] in providing value for the world than
[101:52] speculating and trading.
[101:54] Like unless it's your profession, I
[101:56] wouldn't sit around all day and try and
[101:57] pick bottoms and tops for Bitcoin. As we
[101:59] know, most people just lose money.
[102:02] And again, you're better off just
[102:04] staying humble and stacking sats. Just
[102:05] turn your DCAs on. If Bitcoin rips to
[102:07] 100 from here, you win. If Bitcoin drops
[102:10] to 60 from here, you win. You buy the
[102:12] dip. But as long as you're being a net
[102:15] producer in society, you're producing
[102:17] more value than you're consuming,
[102:19] and Bitcoin also, again, money's time
[102:21] and energy in abstracted form. Bitcoin
[102:23] is saving us all time, right? Like
[102:26] you don't have to
[102:28] solve for inflation in your spare time.
[102:31] You know how many people get off work
[102:33] and spend all day on Robinhood and
[102:35] listening to podcasts about what stocks
[102:36] to pick and trying to figure out what
[102:38] GME is doing with eBay.
[102:40] You don't have to do that. Like go to
[102:42] your kids soccer game, right? Like go
[102:45] fall in love, go pick up a hobby, or go
[102:47] get better at your job, start a business
[102:50] on the side. Like
[102:52] it like Bitcoin saves so much time and
[102:54] effort and energy for the things that
[102:56] matter.
[102:58] For me at least. I can at least speak
[103:00] from my own lived experience.
[103:03] Um okay, Bitcoin and markets. What are
[103:07] uh let's see. Question for Jack.
[103:11] First, congrats on the huge
[103:12] accomplishment with XXI. As 21 grows,
[103:15] I'm assuming you'll hire more people.
[103:16] What's the best way to be considered for
[103:18] a role
[103:19] uh in the future?
[103:21] Um just stay up to date um for our jobs
[103:24] page. I'd say right now we aren't
[103:27] actively hiring for any roles. I mean
[103:29] obviously our larger shareholder
[103:31] proposed a strategic direction, and
[103:33] that's a really big deal. So, as a
[103:35] company we need to figure that one out.
[103:37] And then, you know, it will become more
[103:39] clear
[103:40] how I want to staff the business.
[103:43] But just be on the lookout. And on the
[103:44] Strike side of things, separate company,
[103:46] but on our jobs page we always keep an
[103:48] open application cuz I'm in the business
[103:50] of hiring talent and passion.
[103:53] You know, so if you are someone that
[103:56] wants to work at Strike, you can always
[103:58] write us a letter
[104:00] on what you want to do and and why
[104:01] you're the person for the role. And we
[104:04] hire people all the time based on that.
[104:06] So, never hesitate to reach out.
[104:10] Hi Jack and Dylan, I love a Tuesday
[104:13] morning here in the UK and seeing the
[104:15] show ready to download and listening on
[104:17] the journey to work. Oh, thank you.
[104:19] That's very charming.
[104:20] Any news on Strike loans coming to the
[104:22] UK? Yes, we're working on it. We will
[104:25] get there. Hopefully this quarter is a
[104:27] big quarter for us when it comes to the
[104:28] EU and the UK.
[104:30] Any news on Bitcoin line of credit for
[104:31] individuals coming to Washington? Yes,
[104:34] working on it as well.
[104:37] Unfortunately in the US, a lot of this
[104:39] is regulated on a state-by-state basis
[104:41] and so Washington has just been a bit
[104:44] slow with us, but we're working on it. I
[104:46] know that we're working on it and we
[104:48] expect to get it hopefully soon. Hey
[104:50] Jack, exciting announcements last week.
[104:53] Do HELOC loans start charging interest
[104:55] right when they are taken out?
[104:57] So,
[104:58] they're not HELOC, they're BLOC, not
[105:01] HELOC, but I know I know that that's a
[105:03] good comparison. So,
[105:05] BLOC, block?
[105:07] Bitcoin line of credit? I don't know how
[105:09] we would pronounce that. You guys tell
[105:10] me.
[105:11] But
[105:12] we start charging interest once you use
[105:15] once you pull on that line of credit.
[105:16] So, let's say you open a $5,000 line of
[105:18] credit,
[105:19] you don't get charged anything until you
[105:21] start to use it. But if that line of
[105:23] credit pays a $100 electricity bill for
[105:26] you,
[105:26] then we start charging interest on that
[105:29] $100 that you spent. And then as soon as
[105:31] you pay it off, no interest charged. So,
[105:33] obviously it costs us money to operate
[105:36] the product, so we need to at least
[105:38] charge you guys to recoup our costs.
[105:41] But, check out the product. It's like
[105:44] very cheap. I mean, at the end of the
[105:45] day, if I can borrow money against my
[105:49] Bitcoin at a rate that's cheaper than
[105:51] what I think my Bitcoin will grow over
[105:53] time, it's a no-brainer. And especially
[105:56] when you factor in as an American the
[105:58] tax consequences involved in selling the
[106:00] Bitcoin or spending the Bitcoin, I mean,
[106:02] these products have changed my life. So,
[106:04] check it out and we do not charge
[106:06] anything until you actually use the line
[106:08] of credit. So, if you open one and you
[106:11] don't draw on it, don't worry about it.
[106:13] It's if you actually start paying bills
[106:14] with it or you can buy Bitcoin with it
[106:16] or you can pay your friends with it.
[106:17] It's It's like a payment method. Um
[106:19] that's when we we start charging
[106:21] interest. But, once you pay it down and
[106:23] pay it off, then again, as long as you
[106:25] don't have an outstanding balance,
[106:26] there's no problem.
[106:28] Um
[106:29] Okay, can Strike build a tap-to-pay
[106:32] debit card that lives uh in Apple Pay?
[106:35] It's definitely something that we've
[106:37] looked into. We've talked about it on
[106:38] the show a decent amount. I mean, my
[106:41] hesitancy is that I think Amex or
[106:45] uh Chase are always going to have better
[106:47] rewards cards than we will.
[106:49] So, the way I live on Strike is I use my
[106:52] credit cards and then I use Strike to
[106:54] pay off my credit cards and I use my
[106:55] line of credit to pay those off. And
[106:58] it's the best cuz I'm getting cash back
[107:00] and free flights. Like, you can use all
[107:01] these cards to get all this free stuff.
[107:04] And then I just use Strike to buy
[107:06] Bitcoin, line of credit against my
[107:08] Bitcoin, pay my bills, get my direct
[107:10] deposit.
[107:11] And I just don't know if we'll be better
[107:13] at credit card rewards than these
[107:16] massive companies that are all snug next
[107:19] to the money printers.
[107:21] So, that's the reason I'm not like
[107:22] jumping at building a card cuz we're
[107:24] better than Chase at Bitcoin stuff, but
[107:27] we're not necessarily better than Chase
[107:28] at fiat stuff.
[107:30] So, we'll see. But, as you I mean, let
[107:32] me tell you guys something. I've been
[107:33] wrong time and time again.
[107:36] Like, I'll think you guys want a one
[107:39] thing or think you guys want one
[107:40] direction, and then it turns out I
[107:42] couldn't have been more wrong. And based
[107:44] on your guys' feedback, we build
[107:46] something entirely different. And this
[107:48] could be one of those things. So, keep
[107:50] reaching out to us and the product team
[107:51] and keep leaving comments. And I know
[107:53] we're all as a team trying to figure out
[107:56] the best way for you guys to be able to
[107:59] spend from Strike. And if that's a card,
[108:01] that's a card, and we'll build it.
[108:03] Um
[108:05] let's see.
[108:07] Dylan, question for Jack. Are there any
[108:09] features in Strike that you'd consider
[108:11] putting behind a subscription, something
[108:13] premium for the user that isn't
[108:15] sustainable to give away for free?
[108:17] Yes, actually, 100%.
[108:20] So, there are all sorts of features that
[108:23] people like people want
[108:25] to enter like right now our cheapest
[108:27] lending tier is if you borrow $5 million
[108:30] or more, which are obviously typically
[108:33] for businesses or family offices or
[108:35] high-net-worth individuals.
[108:37] Um but,
[108:39] sometimes people will say, "Hey, just
[108:40] put me in the lower tier for buying
[108:42] Bitcoin fees or the lower tier for
[108:44] lending or don't charge me interest on
[108:47] my line of credit for the first 30 days
[108:49] like a credit card. Like, if I pay it
[108:51] off within the first 30 days, no fees."
[108:54] And you know, we've thought of maybe
[108:56] like a Strike Black account where you
[108:59] pay a monthly subscription or an annual
[109:01] subscription to get access to like the
[109:04] best of Strike. And the only reason it
[109:06] would be economical for us is if you
[109:08] guys pay us
[109:11] like a subscription fee, like a
[109:12] membership fee.
[109:14] And
[109:15] like, we might lose money if you like
[109:17] use the hell out of strike, but as long
[109:19] as we make enough to like meet payroll
[109:22] and have some profit to finance new
[109:23] stuff like new licenses and new products
[109:25] and stuff,
[109:27] then maybe that's something that would
[109:28] work out. So we've
[109:30] thought about that internally.
[109:32] If you guys are listening and interested
[109:35] in that, I would be curious to hear what
[109:37] features
[109:39] you would like to see in like a strike
[109:41] black premium
[109:42] account to give you like the best of
[109:45] strike. Um let me know. I'd be open to
[109:48] it for sure. It's something that we have
[109:49] softly on our road map, but I just don't
[109:52] think we have a super concrete idea of
[109:55] what features would go in there.
[109:58] Uh question for Jack, how do you feel
[110:00] about the Bears draft picks? As an
[110:02] Oregon fan, I think y'all got a great
[110:04] player in Dylan. Yeah, I I think so too.
[110:08] Um I mean obviously offensively we were
[110:12] great um at the wide receiver position.
[110:15] Uh losing DJ Moore, I still think we're
[110:17] fine. Um
[110:20] I thought Luther Burden was great. So
[110:22] offensively
[110:24] uh I think we're good. We had to shore
[110:26] up the center position and and the
[110:28] offensive line a little bit, but
[110:30] primarily the focus was defensively and
[110:32] our secondary and I think we did that.
[110:34] So um I'm excited. I mean the thing that
[110:36] makes me the most nervous about the
[110:37] Bears is we're playing a first place
[110:39] schedule. So we won our division, we're
[110:40] playing a first place schedule, that's
[110:42] not going to be easy.
[110:43] Uh and so I worry about the youth in
[110:45] that locker room and if we experience uh
[110:48] a little bit of adversity, how is Ben
[110:51] and the locker room going to be able to
[110:53] handle that? Um so we'll see.
[110:56] But um
[110:57] I I I like our off season so far. I love
[110:59] DJ Moore. Unfortunately, I agree that he
[111:02] had to go. Um I like what we did in the
[111:05] draft. I like our focus on the defensive
[111:07] side of the ball.
[111:08] Um in a weird way, I like the fact that
[111:11] we didn't end up getting Max Crosby.
[111:13] Something smells off over there. If it's
[111:15] too good to be true, it's probably
[111:17] like you should probably leave it at
[111:18] that. And so, all in all, I think we're
[111:21] going to be competitive in our division
[111:23] again. I mean, the Packers and the Lions
[111:25] are going to be good.
[111:26] Um and Minnesota's got one of the best
[111:28] head coaches in the league. But, uh
[111:31] I think we're going to be competitive.
[111:32] And as a Chicago Bears fan, that's all
[111:33] you can ask for, to be honest.
[111:36] Um
[111:38] Okay, last one. Just leaving a nice
[111:40] comment for you to read because I think
[111:42] we haven't missed a week in over a year
[111:43] at this point, and that deserves a nice
[111:45] closing comment. Here's the comment.
[111:47] I've never caught this show live. I
[111:48] can't really hang around. But, Jack,
[111:50] thank you for doing this every Monday.
[111:51] You make my Tuesday mornings more
[111:53] bearable. Keep up the great work.
[111:55] I really appreciate that. I really do.
[111:59] Um
[112:01] Yeah. Thanks.
[112:03] I'll just leave it at that.
[112:06] I was talking on I uh I guess I won't
[112:08] leave it at that. I was talking
[112:10] on a podcast I was on,
[112:12] and the host was asking me like
[112:15] cuz it seems like anything I do now, I
[112:17] get a lot of hate, pretty much no matter
[112:19] what.
[112:21] And
[112:23] they were asking me, you know, what
[112:25] what's that like? When did that start?
[112:28] And
[112:30] I don't know. You guys go listen to the
[112:32] show if you want. I give a longer
[112:34] answer. But, what I will say is,
[112:37] you know, cuz the host was like, you
[112:38] know, it's
[112:40] people like uh Brian Armstrong or
[112:42] Michael Saylor or Jack Dorsey aren't
[112:45] necessarily hanging out Not that I'm
[112:47] near those guys, by the way. Like
[112:50] just but they asked. They're like, those
[112:52] guys aren't necessarily hanging out in
[112:54] Twitter replies and in the YouTube
[112:55] comments and live streaming every single
[112:57] Monday.
[112:59] And I was like, yeah, you know, it just
[113:00] kind of comes with who I want to be,
[113:03] honestly. As a founder and just like as
[113:05] a builder, as a Bitcoiner, I want to be
[113:08] with the people.
[113:09] I don't want to hide behind lawyers that
[113:12] You know how many times my lawyers tell
[113:14] me like you shouldn't be doing that
[113:15] show, you shouldn't be tweeting how you
[113:17] do.
[113:18] Like I have every excuse to not really
[113:21] be hated as much cuz I just wouldn't
[113:22] talk as much and live behind the
[113:26] bureaucracy
[113:27] of corporate legal risk and public
[113:30] company stuff.
[113:33] And uh
[113:33] it's just not who I want to be. It's not
[113:35] what I think the world needs, honestly.
[113:38] I don't think the world needs like
[113:39] another
[113:40] big deal corporate [ __ ] like
[113:44] politician that
[113:46] again, not to say any of those guys in
[113:47] particular are or are not. But um I
[113:51] think
[113:52] what's being repriced in the world is
[113:53] just being real, whether it's real
[113:55] money, whether it's real infrastructure,
[113:58] whether it's like real health.
[114:00] I think being real, being authentic is
[114:02] being like repriced, revalued in
[114:04] society.
[114:05] And so anyway, I give all that context
[114:07] to say I really appreciate those
[114:08] comments cuz it is one of the harder
[114:10] parts of my job
[114:14] is just uh every day
[114:17] the internet has like an open shot to
[114:19] punch me in the face and sometimes it
[114:20] hurts.
[114:22] But uh those comments mean a lot and I
[114:24] really appreciate it. So thank you for
[114:26] that.
[114:27] And uh the show goes on, baby. The show
[114:30] goes on. With that, I'm going to end,
[114:32] but check this out. So it got dark in
[114:35] the closet because it was
[114:37] thunderstorming, actually.
[114:39] And it just stopped thunderstorming and
[114:40] there's a crazy rainbow right outside my
[114:44] window. So I'm going to see if I can
[114:45] turn my camera around and show you guys.
[114:47] It's a double rainbow.
[114:49] So I don't know if you'll be able to see
[114:50] it and then then I'll end the show.
[114:53] Let's see if I can do this.
[114:58] Woah, you guys see that?
[115:01] Look at that rainbow.
[115:03] Pretty cool, right?
[115:05] Look at the city of Chicago.
[115:08] Rainstorm.
[115:10] Double rainbow.
[115:18] Woo! Oh,
[115:20] there we go. Maybe it's a sign.
[115:22] >> [snorts]
[115:22] >> Maybe it's a sign. Off to greener
[115:24] pastures. Double rainbow. Hey, I heard
[115:27] there's gold at the bottom of that
[115:28] rainbow. Not in Chicago, not in the
[115:30] empty closet. There'll be Bitcoin at the
[115:32] bottom of that rainbow.
[115:33] Love you guys. As always, comments,
[115:35] questions, criticisms, leave it all. Man
[115:38] of the people.
[115:39] We'll never stop. Fix the money, fix the
[115:40] world. Peace out. Until next time.

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