Lenny Rachitsky: Sweet. Okay. I'll take us to another recurring corner in the podcast, Contrarian Corner. What's something that you believe that a lot of other people don't believe? What's kind of a contrarian take about anything that comes to mind? Evan Spiegel: Well, I think for me, we're in an industry where so much of the conversation is focused on technology. And I think maybe my contrarian point of view or my contrarian angle is humanity is far more important than the technological developments, largely because humanity dictates how technology is adopted. I think for example, right now, people are massively underestimating the role that human adoption and human comfort with advances in artificial intelligence will determine its deployment. I think technology leaders think that folks will just blindly adopt new technology as it comes out.
I think for example, right now, people are massively underestimating the role that human adoption and human comfort with advances in artificial intelligence will determine its deployment.