Jordi Visser / VisserLabs

AI Panic, Bitcoin Crash, Bubble Warnings… And the Opportunity Hiding Beneath the Fear

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36:20 min youtube 2025 Week 47 🇬🇧 EN
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[00:00] doing this from Maine. Um, weekend before Thanksgiving, another brutal week, another scary week for people. Um, based on the calls I got and the people reaching out that started with, is everything going to be okay? Uh, I'll treat this week as one of the uh, scariest weeks based on people calling, but just really nothing major happening from a scare perspective. Uh
[00:30] most of the news was good. Uh but we'll go through things and uh see what's happening. Uh thinking in bets uh I'll be talking about Annie Duke on this episode and hopefully for the people who are looking for some kind of calm to set in uh as they watch this. Uh I want you to just think in bets. Uh capitulation signs, more bubble warnings from AI. The AI credit stress fears came out. I had to deal with those this week. Um the reality with AI uh Gemini 3 came out
[01:01] this week. I'll go through that. Try to remind people uh to stay calm and for investors who have benefited this year by every time there's an AI bubble fear uh which again I think I said it last week I'm going to say it. You're going to be climbing a wall of worry of AI for the next five years. uh Bitcoin crash. Uh I'll go through that uh painful uh thing for me and uh all decisions at the end of the day are always bets on the
[01:31] future. So let's start off this way. Uh this was a a post uh that got 625,000 views. S&P is down three and a half% from all-time highs. My portfolio is down 35% from all-time highs. That pretty much was about my thought process this time. I've I've uh I had a good year in terms of picking uh the right time back in the liberation time to put money to work. I have some great buys in Microns, some great buys in uh Nvidia.
[02:01] Uh lately've had some good uh Eli Liysies. But then on the other side, I have taken a bath uh on my Micro Strategy purchases which were done at the same time around Liberation Day plus some of the rally going and Bitcoin. And since uh a good portion of my net worth is in Bitcoin, uh it's been a uh it's been a a a bad week for my portfolio. And the reason I brought this guy up in terms of going through it, when you have 3,700
[02:31] followers and you put up a post that ends up going viral for 625,000, I think that sums up the way people are feeling right now. Thinking in bets. Uh, if you haven't read this, if you haven't purchased it for your kids yet, uh, I highly recommend it. Annie Duke is fantastic. Um, I had a, uh, a 90inute one-on-one conversation with her one day and we talked about so many different things. She's a brilliant lady. uh has a great mindset and because she's
[03:02] translated psychology and poker together uh this book I think for everyone to make it through the next five years I highly recommend thinking about it. Uh it's just a great way but it's really important for for kids. I've given it to um to many many people over the years. This is just a summary with from it. Um, just thinking in bets is a book about making smarter decisions when you don't have all the facts because in the real world you never do. It's really about the fact that every decision you make in life is a bet. Uh, and there you go.
[03:34] Every decision is a bet. Thinking in bets or decision tree. It really is just a great book for people to go through. But in particular, whenever you're letting your emotions run free because you think you know things that you don't, you have to get back to a process that's based on prob uh probabilities, uh and the outcome that'll come from it. So, um despite all the the fears that have gone on, uh and again, I I find it amazing. The S&P was down 1.8% for the week. Uh, and again, I I bring this up
[04:05] almost every week just to show you that since this week here in April, we've had such a massive move and every now and then we get a correction. And every time we get a correction like this, it's a bubble fear. It's a AI is going to collapse fear. It's a every single time. There's not one time that that doesn't occur. Uh, even if it's with the tariffs, it's because people believe we're in a bubble. the NDX little bit weaker down 3.13%. You can see that monthtodate when you
[04:35] add these three weeks in it's been a good size correction. So I don't want to minimize how much damage has been done. Uh but I'll put that uh a little bit more in perspective. Russell 2000 was only down 70 basis points for the week. So it outperformed uh and at one point on Friday it actually got back to unchanged for the week. uh nice close uh in terms of candlestick, but more importantly as an Aliot wave person, you have this day here which will you know is is is a day that people will talk about the fact
[05:06] that we gapped up uh a percent and a half and then we sold off and we're down a percent and a half and it's only happened four times in the last 30 years. Uh, this looks very corrective, but the reason I brought this chart up is with the S&P fall, we've only given up 20% of the gain that had gone on. We finally closed below the 50-day moving average, which had to happen at some point, and we had this nice reversal day today. I bring this up just because keep your head on straight if you're going to
[05:36] make money going forward. But I'm going to go through the reasons why you want to keep your head on straight now. But this looks like a corrective move off all-time highs. Uh in terms of the NASDAQ, we've done a 26% correction. So again, or 24% correction. So again, we haven't done anything. And to make it even look worse, here are the year-to-ate numbers across the globe. This isn't just a US thing. This isn't just an AI bubble thing. In fact, the US is underperforming.
[06:06] And to call this a bubble when the S&P is up 12 and the NASDAQ is up 15 while all these other markets are up a lot more and when you do it in currency terms uh in the dollar it's even more in terms of investing overseas. So fear and greed index the CNN one uh got down to six basically the same level it was in liberation day. The VIX climbed up to 24. This is the fiveday average of it. So this takes out just kind of the movements and we close right around the
[06:37] 24 level. So again, you know, except for liberation day, this is a big move in the VIX. This is the VIX vol 5day. We're actually at the highest level except for liberation daytime. Equity put call ratio for for single name options, highest level since then. put volume jumped to the second highest reading ever uh historically. It was a good time uh in terms of buying
[07:07] this stuff the last times that it's happened over these years. And I just want to remind people when you overlay the VIX with junk spreads, this is what I care about. Um if things were bad, junk spreads would be widening. Uh I always had this uh uh line I've used funding funding spreads or the funding markets lead the credit market which leads the equity market and right now we don't have any stress in the junk bond market. Yes, we have
[07:37] stress in some other parts of the credit side in terms of private credit, but it's nothing as of now. It's isolated to that area and I think that's where it's going to remain despite the brilliant work of many many people saying the contagion is coming and I'm going to hear my teenth recession call uh since the great financial crisis. The S&P here's the correction in terms of the draw down 5.6%. I mean, it's not even a blip on here. And yet again, if you take any 5% correction we've had and compare the
[08:07] amount of panic I heard this week, I think on a relative basis, I've never heard this much panic relative to the size of the draw down. NDX, I mean an 8% draw down. I mean, look how many we had in 2020 dur this is during bull market times. Forget the bare market times because this is when it stayed down. But all these others, we went right back up eventually uh very quickly. I think the same thing will happen this time. If the AI bubble burst, a recession could follow. Um, The Economist has had a
[08:37] really high hit ratio for marking bottoms. So, the fact that they pin this on their uh their X feed uh gives me good hope. Um, I don't understand why Michael Bur's getting all this uh press, but regardless, he posted a chart showing how stocks peak before capital spending did in past investment booms. Yes, it is correct. I'll go through some other things that peaked. Stocks are a leading indicator for the economy. So, I agree with the fact that if you want to make
[09:07] the argument that we're in a bubble and that stocks will peak first, I completely agree, but you have to look at some other things, too. I've already shown you one of them, which is junk spreads. Jeff Gunlock, um I I mean, this guy's been wrong all year, but regardless, um warns of garbage lending and private credit booms. He also said um AI was overblown. That's all I needed to hear to basically say why listen to someone when the tip of the spear is AI. If you say something
[09:37] like it's overblown, then just short the market and just continue because if you really believe that AI is overblown, that getting intelligence into everything is overblown, then yeah, if I were you, I would be focusing on this. So, for the first time in 20 years, AI bubble fields have fund managers saying companies are overdoing it. I bring this up because this is the percentage of investors that think companies are overinvesting. So they complain that there wasn't any
[10:07] investment and now they're overinvesting. This was during the post great financial crisis period when everyone was getting their balance sheets. This is why I talked about the fact that QE is basically artificial intelligence in terms of the fact that uh we're going to be getting so many profit margins from the fact of reducing expenses and there's operating leverage multiplier on it uh that I think people should focus on that instead of that. Well, going backwards off on the right one. Um,
[10:37] Coreweave CDS, this was brought up to me this week, building in a roughly 40 to 45% chance the company defaults over the next 5 years. So, let me say um that I don't have a problem with this at all. Uh, do I think this is too high? Yeah. But do I think there's a 30 to 35% chance the company will have defaults over the next 5 years? As someone who's as bullish as I am on AI, yes, this is part of the thing that I think people
[11:08] have to expand. Number one, we're in a K-shaped economy, which means I don't expect the credit situation, the job situation to get any better. That is part of the bullish outlook for me with stocks and profit margins. I also believe that there's a chance a good chance that at some point two years into this we will have some artificial intelligence driven solution to power andor efficiency in a big way. Now when I say two years the more we build out the power the higher the probability of
[11:38] actually reaching a point in AI where we can figure out some solutions. I think that's why making any bets longer than five years when it comes to innovation and when it comes to things related to the stock market, I think you're playing at risk. This is a belief I have with everything related to AI that it cannibalizes everything and that it is impossible to predict what the world's going to look like 3 years from now. So, I don't have a problem with the CDS being up there. It doesn't mean we're in a bubble. It just means the credit
[12:08] market is starting to get smart with the fact that they may not be able to justify all the debt they're taking. Same thing with Oracle CDS. Again, I bring this up because don't focus on this until we start seeing signs. So, do you believe Jeff Gunlock when he says it's overblown? Do you believe the bubble fears from the economist? Do you believe all of the bubble talk? Or do you believe Eric Schmidt? I I just go if you're going to do anything this weekend to just get your brain back into check in a in a way that you can understand what's coming our way, just watch the AI
[12:39] revolution is under hype with Eric Schmidt. And just remember, he's not the CEO of a company. He's not sitting there doing this. He's actually doing things for the government. He's heavily involved. He's in the know of everything going on and he's talking about this stuff. It is here. It is real. It is now. Gemini 3 comes out. Best model in the world for multimmodal understanding. It's amazing. Having used it now for the last two days. If you want to go get the details on it because you were too caught up reading about AI bubble fears
[13:10] and worrying about the losses in your portfolio. This round table discussion reviewing Gemini 3 was fantastic again from moonshots. Just to take out a full quote from Dave Blondon in this. I was over at MIT last night talking to a bunch of undergrads and I'm trying to tell them like look you don't know this but you know 40 years ago we started writing code as a species before I read the rest of this I just want to make sure you understand he's saying he went to MIT 40 years ago is when code started in 1992
[13:41] when Netscape basically went through its road show and was eventually launched the world changed Msei world went from being Japan heavy to USheavy and you ended up having a big shift that went on as the world and everything about it was gobbled up by concentration which we now see with the Mag 7 that was all built on code and I swear to God if you look at what happens today when you write code verse 40 years ago it's identical it's like a higher level language nothing's really changed all of a sudden you can build software by talking to the machine it's
[14:11] such a different world by starting today and moving forward this is like a different world starting today from the day that we lived in yesterday this is all about how he feels having used Gemini 3. And the reason I'm bringing that up is as you get negative and believe there's a bubble. This bubble has been building now for 40 years. Code has dominated what has worked. You are fading a 40-year trend of the winners being built on code and you're still looking at a world where the
[14:41] manufacturing side and all of this other side has become less relevant over time. Nvidia's Q3 revenues came out. These are more facts. This is not about AI bubble. This is not some old guy saying that AI is overblown. Nvidia Q3 revenues surged to a record 57 billion, up 62%. 57 billion in revenues. Here is the chart of their revenues. You're going to pick the top of that. If that was a falling chart, it would say
[15:12] don't catch a falling knife. This is a I've never seen a vertical chart like this go straight up. But people are trying to pick the top in it. Nvidia is cheap. I've done this before on this. I've done it on interviews. I'll say it again. There is going to be $5 trillion almost assuredly of buildout in data centers over the course of the next 5 years around the globe. Nvidia currently is gets about 35 to 50% of that buildout number. It's can even go up to 60%.
[15:44] Unless you believe they're going to lose their moat, which is almost impossible as I've talked about, they're going to get some percentage. And right now, we have an expectation out five years of their revenues being about 425 billion. They keep beating numbers. They keep raising numbers. Pay attention to Nvidia. When it starts to reach a point where it is expensive and where its PE is not compressing and where its margins are actually going down as opposed to being out, you can start to worry about things. Until then, just follow the facts. Here are more facts. Palunteer
[16:15] which basically said in the last earnings as as I highlighted that they are now benefiting from hundreds of companies that are using them for their adoption side up 63% revenue growth. Forget about the valuation and the fact that it got too far in front of it. The revenue growth is a fact. AMD's revenue growth is a fact. Meta, the companies you're worried about still going 26%. Revenue growth should be some multiple of nominal GDP. These are expenditures
[16:45] numbers yearover-year. Every single one of them is in some way tied. And here's the S&P 500 revenue growth. Just look at these related to it. These are facts. This is not a joke. S&P 500 profit margins made all-time highs because of what's going on with Nvidia. The rest of them AI is taking center stage in corporate America. Every single part of the S&P 500 is now mentioning AI. You will be out of business if you do not incorporate AI.
[17:15] AI will force a recession without having a recession. A recession is about cleansing out the weak, letting the strong to survive. That's what Amazon did against its competition back in the 2009 to 2019 period. You're going to see the same thing from public companies over any companies that can't compete with it. It's going to continue to put pressure on the labor market. You're going to continue to have a K-shaped economy. There's just no way to get around it. And the governments will be forced to continue to give transfer
[17:45] payments to the Kshape without a recession. DRAM prices, this is a fact. This is from September. So, as the bubble fears are growing, DRAM prices. So, every time you hear, oh, we we've got accounting issues with DRAMs. The price of DRAM keeps going higher. Here's DRAM, the old DRAMs, the ones that are basically should not be going up this fast. This is this overlaid with PMIs. I will still say PMIs are going higher next year because of the infrastructure
[18:16] needs for this buildout. If we were in a bubble, as Michael Bur said, the stock market does lead, but what also leads is junk spreads. Here is the dot bubble. LTCM starts there. We've got credit fears that go two years before we get it. In the housing problem, we had tons of issues going on before the stock market peaked. peaked in March of '08, which is even up higher. So, he's right, but junk spreads lead the stock market. What also leads
[18:46] is bank stocks. This is year-over-year bank stocks. Again, at the peak in 2000, we've got credit problems. We've got lending problems. That's a bubble. And guess what? The banks year-over-year, they're down about 20%. Same number they were down at the peak in stocks in ' 07. So, these are the peaks in stocks. This is where bank stocks were trading year-over-year. Right now they're up 13%. I mentioned this last week. So again, as people just throw this stuff out there. It's a bubble. It's a bubble. Get some facts. Here's the five-year
[19:17] move in NDX leading up into the dot bubble. This is normalized. This is 800%. So it starts at 100. We're at 917. That's five years. Here's where the current level is, 95%. So 10 times more or eight times more, whatever you want to go through last time. So when you're looking at a bubble, at least do it right. Capex spending on AI is masking economic weakness. I completely agree. I'll go
[19:50] through why capex spending is right now in my opinion masking significant economic weakness. No matter what people say about trying to figure out the math as to what it's doing, if AI capex wasn't happening, we weren't having the money going through and Nvidia wasn't getting the revenues coming through, I don't believe the economy would be growing at the level that it is. We've got GDP now up near 4%. The last quarter was up around 3%. We wouldn't be anywhere near there. We'd be closer to 1%. We'd be struggling getting through.
[20:21] It would be very difficult. Artificial intelligence is consuming capital faster than investors can recalibrate. Bank of America now sees global hypers scale spending blah blah blah blah blah. Now the reason I put this up if I agree with it that level of investment is extraordinary. At its peak the 5G telecom buildout consumed about 70% of operating cash flow. AI infrastructure is now approaching the same strength. I I I just can't emphasize how easy it is for you guys to go into chat GPT take a snip snapshot of that paste it in
[20:52] there and say give me your read on this. That's all I did in this. Why comparing the AI capex to the 5G telecom buildout is misleading. Telecom was a levered low margin crappy regulatory cap industry. I added my own uh adjective in there. Hyperscalers are the opposite. They're high margin, low leverage, enormous cash flow. This looks much more like the 1990 semiconductor capex boom. Do you remember how that exhed? No. Cloud buildout in the early AWS Azure era. Do you remember that
[21:23] ended? No. Railroads are electrification era industrial capex booms. It's not like telecom. Again, I I if you guys are going to try to lose money and just follow these people that aren't doing anything on this and are just using their history of I can tell this is a bubble because I'm a genius as opposed to what are the facts behind the case. Why am I not going to a Michelin star restaurant for dinner? I'm going to sit at home in AI and pay attention to things. You cannot sit there and actually know how or why AI is useful
[21:55] unless you have some idea as to possibility of cancer cures, possibility of replacing people with it and using in businesses, what's actually happening. But it is disturbing the signals in the economy. So I understand why people believe a recession is happening. This is the leading economic indicator. There has never been a time since the in the history since it's been created. So for people that are in their 80s right now saying AI is overblown, just go back over time. This is a time where
[22:26] historically we've been in a recession when the LEI the LEI has been negative now since 2022. Since we raised rates, we raised rates so fast everyone thought there'd be a recession. Well, technically there is a recession. Commercial real estate's in a recession. Housing is technically getting close to a recession. We've got no job games being created. We are in some sort of a recession the way you define it in the past, but it's not the world we live in now. PMIs, again, this is a 20month
[22:56] average. The 20-month average, we can't get out of our own way. We've always been in a recession when manufacturing has been this weak. Always until now. The job situation, I showed this before, earnings per share, S&P earnings per share just continues to go higher. While temp jobs, they're not hiring temp employees. This has never happened before. So we are in a recession. This is why I did in this uh podcast I did with Dean Kernut. We both come from the derivative
[23:27] area. Most of the podcasts I do these day have some relationship at this point to crypto uh just because those are the ones that have been asking. But if you want to go hear me talk in more of a macro perspective and talk about things that are going on on the derivative world and the equity world, you can go listen to Dean. I thought he did a great job in terms of bringing up questions and going through it and I went through it in there. Now, for the pain for me, as wrong as I've been this year, I thought Bitcoin Bitcoin would be four times where it closed on this. So, this is maybe the most wrong I've been ever
[23:59] in terms of forecasting things. I thought this year we'd also see oil prices go higher. Uh we didn't we didn't see any of that. In fact, oil prices are not only weak, they continue to march down towards 50. Uh, and I believe power power is going higher and I think oil will go higher next year. But these are the places where I've been wrong this year. And Bitcoin has now fallen 36% from the highs that it was less than seven weeks ago. Now, here are the draw downs on this. Uh, and again, you had
[24:29] close to 90, 80, 80, 78. We guess could go down here. I think we're doing another one of these. So again, as long as I've been in it, I doubled down this week and tripled down this week. I also texted Anthony Pompiano on Tuesday and told him I thought the lows were in before another 7,000 uh point fall. So catching this falling knife has become something that has not worked for me, but uh I like doing things when you've got
[25:00] this much fear and greed. So maybe we'll go down to 70, maybe we'll go down to 60. I don't know. I just don't think we're staying down long. That's fear and greed index down at levels below where we were in liberation day. Here is the DSI, the daily sentiment index for the futures low since it's been uh since uh Bitcoin had futures. RSI fell below 21. Here's what's happened afterwards if you want to play the numerology game and look for an area to go in. But more importantly, uh I did
[25:31] write a paper called the light of the end of the turbulence on April 8th of this year. that was about the stock market and about the fact that again I thought whenever it got like this where people were jumping out a window and thinking the government was actually going to let the stock market fall uh it turned up higher because I believe risk assets are going higher next year because I believe PMIs are going higher next year and because I believe tokenization is not understood by people and stable coins we're going through some sort of a uh a liquidation part in
[26:03] crypto and it does move on its own uh basis is again it also rallies faster than anything. So in this paper I go through that it feels the same to me as it did back on April 8th where I've got panic coming from everywhere spread throughout family members, friends, everything along the line in terms of what's gone on. I get it. It's been a big fall. I've been wrong on it. People can doubt it. They can go through it. But at least I'm putting my bet on the line and highlighting why I think it is about to go higher. Now, in terms of
[26:33] this fall relative to the S&P, uh, again, it's 33%, we've had bigger falls to put it in perspective, and it's still gone higher. Most importantly to me, it's only down 9% year-to date, and that's after back-to-back years of over 100%. So, regardless of everything going on, two good weeks in Bitcoin in terms of a short covering rally, it could be outperforming the S&P. That's how fast it moves and how quickly when sentiment gets this bad historically, you can go the other direction. I'll take it. One of the other things that continues to
[27:04] make me happy is I do believe that retail has gotten caught here. Um, a lot of good things and a lot of positive news in Bitcoin this year. You also had a lot of supply from the DATs and the companies that were out there uh issuing stuff. Uh, there was a lot of supply. Micro Strategy obviously brought a lot of supply. Micro Strategy. This is the chart of it versus my specame index. Again, when you have a correlation that's this high that really begins. So this fall here to me, this liquidation which came right after the
[27:34] Trump tariff situation, there was a massive liquidation. There's still an overhang. This consolidation here to me was OG. This was my silent IPO time. And then this was retail getting knocked out once we broke the range. And I think this has been a lot of selling that's gone on. I think there's an overhang from that period. But we also saw the spec names go again. The spec names are mainly on nuclear, they're in quantum, things like that. These are names that I don't buy into um that I think their retail was just trading momentum in.
[28:04] They've bailed out of them. Here's the chart of it again since past the October 5th period. Bitcoin falls first, then you get a bounce and then from that point, the white line is spec name basically moving tick for tick with it in terms of day for day. The other thing it's been correlated to, there's been a massive growth unwind that began around the same time as the Bitcoin high in Asian growth factor. Uh, Asia is very much into Bitcoin and you've had a straight line down in the Asian growth
[28:34] factor. Massive move. Uh, there's clearly an unwind going on over there. Here is the overlay since August in the Asian growth factor with Bitcoin. Circle has done a complete round trip. So, you've now taken it back to the opening price of the IPO. All right. You got to love to witness. This is the I highlighted this before. S&P opened at least one and a half% only to close one and a half% lower. There's only been three other times in more than 32 years.
[29:06] Um, Liberation Day, this is when I wrote the light at the end of turbulence. That ended up being a good time to buy. Uh this is October and of08. Both of those two. Uh that was a few weeks after Lehman Brothers and that was when we got to we're getting close to an original low which happened a couple weeks later before bounce before another low that happened. I'm going to bring this up again and this time I'm going to go through it. Annie Duke again thinking in bets.
[29:36] Life is more like poker than chess. You must make highstake decisions with incomplete information, hidden variables, and luck by framing every decision as a bet. You learn to assign probabilities, evaluate expected values, and challenge your own assumptions. Duke emphasizes constant updating, treating beliefs as hypothesis that evolve as new evidence arrives rather than the fixed truths. Ultimately, the book teaches that great decision makers aren't certain. They're disciplined, probabilistic, and adaptable in the face of uncertainty. You look for the scenarios where things are wrong. every
[30:06] single chart. If I wanted to get worried about the market right now, I would want to see this turn negative. Again, this is revisions. These green lines here are revisions going higher. Earnings revisions. They still remain high. These are periods, and you can go through them on your own where you want to be long stocks. A lot of these are coming out of coming out of the dot bubble, coming out of the great financial crisis, coming out of COVID. We're sitting up here. This is why I expect the PMIs to go higher. The PMI went higher in here. The PMI went
[30:38] higher in here. PMIs went higher in here. PMIs went higher in here. You can go look it up for yourself. Revisions are going higher. And that means a lot of good things. Here's the revision. Like I said, overlaid with PMIs. I've shown this chart before. This is the 20week moving average of revisions. Last one was 0.16. We are currently on a 20week at 0.15. It is still sitting up here, guys. revisions are going higher and the positive earnings news in the US has not been lost in the rest of the world. This is a
[31:08] global story global. It's actually going faster outside the US which is going to help the US as well. And to go back in time, this is the biggest relative earnings growth differential from the US rest of the world in the last decade. So owning international stocks, which I still like over US stocks, even though
[31:39] I'm bullish on a AI guys, see I can have a view that is focused more on else. I also like small caps more. And guess what? And h how can you be looking at this? Realizing consensus EPS growth for select small caps forecast point to nearly 60% growth. If we get anything close to 60% growth, do you think small caps are not going to have a good year? Do you not think the market's going to have a good year? Um especially since what they're
[32:09] coming out of negative. Negative. This again is what PMIs look like when you go from negative midcap, same thing. So for those of you in the midcap and small cap space, there are good things to come. You've been in a bare market for three years. If you get PMIs moving higher or if it's just because rates are moving lower and they're getting the benefit of the tailwind of rates moving lower, it's still good. Oversold breath. We are oversold, but in particular the
[32:39] NASDAQ on the breath. Oversold. I also highlighted this. Oh, didn't make this bigger. We're oversold on NYC breath. We're oversold on S&P breath. We got the Fed move down to less than 50% earlier in the week. And then an important news item came out. New York President John Williams sees room for central bank to cut interest rates again as the labor market softens. This is a big deal. Um, and again, I say it's a
[33:09] big deal. jumped the probability back to above 60. I don't think this is necessary, but I say this because remember in the first quarter of next year, you're not only going to have the one big beautiful bill positive side. You not only have the monetary lag, but you're going to have Trump pick his Fed chair. These are all news items to come. I want you to keep your head in the game. AI is strong. Don't fall for the trap of the bubble stuff. Don't fall for the trap as we're going through one of the most potent and unbelievable times where margins are going higher. This is
[33:41] going to remain a story and it's going into a midterm year where affordability is a major issue. Craig Shapiro put out a fantastic um post. Uh and I've used it in meetings this week. Uh I believe in it. It's he put it in a way that was great. I just want you guys to think about this. If you're focused on uh industrials, if you're focused on old commodity related names, AI's demand colliding with physical limits, the next moat is control of land power, water, and grid access. In a world where we
[34:11] need all electricity, the legacy industries use up a tremendous amount of electricity, aluminum, steel, all kinds of stuff. They've got he's got chemicals listed here. if we need it, the hyperscalers can pay them to go offline and use their electricity allocations. This is a great great call. I liked it so much I put it into chat GPT. It gave me a whole bunch
[34:41] of ideas on it. Again, as I do my videos coming up that'll be on the payw wall, you guys are going to hopefully be able to do this yourself and all of a sudden it comes with names. It comes with places to go look. But I would keep that in the back of your mind because I do think that is what's going to happen. I'm going to finish it off again with Annie. Uh, all decisions are bets on the future and they aren't right or wrong because they turn out well or poorly. They're right or wrong because of how we made them. I couldn't agree more. I want you guys to remember that as you go
[35:11] through this. It is about making decisions right now, not based on the fear. It's got to be based on facts. And even though we don't know the future, all decisions are bets on the future. You put all the information together, my job here every week is to try to give you guys a story that involves both the positive and negatives that are going on with AI to help you guys be strong in these points when people down because a lot of the alpha that's being made is during these times. Even if you just increase your waiting at this point and
[35:42] then reduce it when it goes back higher, we're going to have a lot of these moves. And just remember, Micron was under a 100red for the better part of the year at the beginning. Couldn't get above and then when it finally went, it went up to 240 without really stopping at any point. I think you're going to get similar moves next years on some of these small cap names. So, do your homework now. Don't panic. Use this opportunity and just remember the light at the end of the turbulence is the time to be focused. Have a great Thanksgiving, guys. I appreciate
[36:12] everything there. Subscribe if you haven't already. Give it to your friends, your family. Buy Annie's book. See you.
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Summary — Wall of Worry, Bitcoin Capitulation, AI Is Real


TL;DR — Week before Thanksgiving, extreme fear.

  • "My portfolio is down 35% from all-time highs" while the S&P is "down three and a half% from all-time highs": the guest is underwater in Bitcoin ("Bitcoin has now fallen 36% from the highs") and MicroStrategy, and still "doubled down this week and tripled down this week".
  • "You're going to be climbing a wall of worry of AI for the next five years": he rejects the bubble framing — "Nvidia Q3 revenues surged to a record 57 billion, up 62%" and "$5 trillion almost assuredly of buildout in data centers over the course of the next 5 years".
  • "We are in some sort of a recession... but it's not the world we live in now": a K-shaped economy keeps margins at records via AI capex, and junk spreads "don't have any stress" — the classic credit-bubble signature is absent.

◆ Context: a healthy correction, not a bubble pop

The guest opens from Maine on the "weekend before Thanksgiving" describing "another brutal week" where callers asked "is everything going to be okay?", although "most of the news was good". The S&P falls 1.8% on the week and the NDX is "down 3.13%", while the Russell 2000 "was only down 70 basis points". Anchor: "We've only given up 20% of the gain that had gone on" off the highs, and "We finally closed below the 50-day moving average". On the NDX, "we've done a 26% correction. So again, or 24% correction. So again, we haven't done anything". He highlights a reversal day that "only happened four times in the last 30 years" as evidence that "this looks like a corrective move off all-time highs".

The fear gauge confirms the panic: "Fear and greed index... got down to six basically the same level it was in liberation day", "VIX climbed up to 24", "put volume jumped to the second highest reading ever". But the key piece is credit: "junk spreads would be widening... right now we don't have any stress in the junk bond market". S&P drawdown is "5.6%" — "it's not even a blip on here" — and the NDX "an 8% draw down". Anchor: "I've never heard this much panic relative to the size of the draw down".

▶ AI: "it is here, it is real, it is now"

The guest runs through the bears by name: "Michael Bur's getting all this press" using the "stocks peak before capital spending did in past investment booms" pattern — he concedes the mechanism but demands the second half. "Jeff Gunlock... this guy's been wrong all year... warns of garbage lending and private credit booms. He also said AI was overblown". On Coreweave CDS: "roughly 40 to 45% chance the company defaults over the next 5 years... do I think there's a 30 to 35% chance the company will have defaults over the next 5 years? As someone who's as bullish as I am on AI, yes". He reads CDS as "the credit market is starting to get smart", not as a systemic signal.

The facts: "Nvidia Q3 revenues surged to a record 57 billion, up 62%". Investment mechanism: "There is going to be $5 trillion almost assuredly of buildout in data centers over the course of the next 5 years around the globe. Nvidia currently is gets about 35 to 50% of that buildout number. It can even go up to 60%". Five-year revenue expectation: "out five years of their revenues being about 425 billion". Exit rule: "When it starts to reach a point where it is expensive and where its PE is not compressing and where its margins are actually going down". Demand anchors: Palantir "up 63% revenue growth", AMD and Meta growing strongly; "S&P 500 profit margins made all-time highs because of what's going on with Nvidia".

On capex: "capex spending on AI is masking economic weakness... I completely agree" — he quantifies: "GDP now up near 4%. The last quarter was up around 3%. We wouldn't be anywhere near there. We'd be closer to 1%". Distinction from 5G: "Why comparing the AI capex to the 5G telecom buildout is misleading. Telecom was a levered low margin crappy regulatory cap industry. Hyperscalers are the opposite. They're high margin, low leverage, enormous cash flow. This looks much more like the 1990 semiconductor capex boom". He also dismisses the NDX mean-reversion case: "five-year move in NDX leading up into the dot bubble... 800%... We're at 917... current level is 95%" — today's base "10 times more" than the dot-com run-up.

▶ Bitcoin: "most wrong I've been ever" — and adding

Confession: "I thought Bitcoin would be four times where it closed on this... this is maybe the most wrong I've been ever in terms of forecasting things". Data: "Bitcoin has now fallen 36% from the highs that it was less than seven weeks ago", "down 9% year-to date, and that's after back-to-back years of over 100%". Oil: "oil prices are not only weak, they continue to march down towards 50. I believe power is going higher and I think oil will go higher next year" — oil, alongside Bitcoin, is where he admits to being "wrong this year".

But the action runs counter to the confession: "I doubled down this week and tripled down this week. I also texted Anthony Pompliano on Tuesday and told him I thought the lows were in before another 7,000 uh point fall". Sentiment: "fear and greed index down at levels below where we were in liberation day", "RSI fell below 21", "DSI, the daily sentiment index for the futures low since it's been since Bitcoin had futures". Temporal frame: he links it to his paper "the light at the end of the turbulence on April 8th" — "it feels the same to me as it did back on April 8th where I've got panic coming from everywhere". Supply hypothesis: "Micro Strategy obviously brought a lot of supply... retail has gotten caught here", and a "massive growth unwind... in the Asian growth factor" correlated with the drop. Technical read: "Circle has done a complete round trip... taken it back to the opening price of the IPO".

◆ Search for the alpha

The central thesis, visible in capital allocation rather than just words: the guest is doubling/tripling positions in Bitcoin after a 36% drop in under seven weeks, while maintaining structural conviction in Nvidia ("Nvidia is cheap") and seeing small caps as the next expression of the PMI rerating. The asymmetry, in his words, is that "the credit market is starting to get smart" (Coreweave CDS 40-45%, Oracle CDS) while "junk spreads" show "any stress" — the dislocation between credit-equity and high-yield is exactly the condition that has historically marked a bottom, not a崩.

Asset / signal / read
Asset Signal Read
Bitcoin "doubled down this week and tripled down this week"; "RSI fell below 21"; "fear and greed index down at levels below where we were in liberation day" He reads drawdowns "close to 90, 80, 80, 78" as a historical pattern; "I just don't think we're staying down long"; implicit target "four times where it closed" (not met this year, reiterated).
MicroStrategy "taken a bath uh on my Micro Strategy purchases which were done at the same time around Liberation Day" Open position with material loss; no sale — the Bitcoin conviction is expressed via the proxy.
Nvidia "Nvidia Q3 revenues surged to a record 57 billion, up 62%"; "$5 trillion almost assuredly of buildout in data centers over the course of the next 5 years"; "Nvidia is cheap" Captures 35-60% of global buildout; 5-year revenue expected "$425 billion"; exit rule: "PE is not compressing and where its margins are actually going down".
Micron "great buys in Microns"; historical analogue: "Micron was under a 100red for the better part of the year... when it finally went, it went up to 240" Structural buy into the drawdown; he cites 100→240 as proof that "I think you're going to get similar moves next years on some of these small cap names".
Eli Lilly "lately've had some good uh Eli Liysies" Recent winner; no numerical levels.
Small caps / midcaps "Realizing consensus EPS growth for select small caps forecast point to nearly 60% growth" "You've been in a bare market for three years... if it's just because rates are moving lower... it's still good". Best expression of the PMI rerating he expects in 2026.
International ex-US "biggest relative earnings growth differential from the US rest of the world in the last decade"; "I still like [international stocks] over US stocks" Relative rerating: earnings outside the US growing faster; he "can have a view that is focused more on [abroad]" while still bullish AI.
Industrials / commodities (land, power, water, grid) "AI's demand colliding with physical limits, the next moat is control of land power, water, and grid access" Thesis attributed to Craig Shapiro: "hyperscalers can pay them to go offline and use their electricity allocations" — aluminum, steel, chemicals; alpha in legacy industries ceding power.
Coreweave / Oracle (CDS) "roughly 40 to 45% chance the company defaults over the next 5 years" He reads it as smart single-name pricing, not systemic; "don't have a problem with the CDS being up there".

▶ Catalysts he names

John Williams (NY Fed): "sees room for central bank to cut interest rates again as the labor market softens" — the guest notes this moved "the probability back to above 60". Upcoming catalysts enumerated: "Trump pick his Fed chair", "the one big beautiful bill", and the "monetary lag" of the cutting cycle. On timing: "remember in the first quarter of next year". Favorite technical indicator: "revisions... these green lines here are revisions going higher... 20-week moving average of revisions. Last one was 0.16. We are currently on a 20-week at 0.15".

Explicit contrarian calls: (1) "AI will force a recession without having a recession" — "a recession is about cleansing out the weak" but "the governments will be forced to continue to give transfer payments to the K-shape without a recession"; (2) PMIs: "I will still say PMIs are going higher next year because of the infrastructure needs for this buildout" — against "this 20-month average... we can't get out of our own way... always been in a recession when manufacturing has been this weak. Always until now"; (3) Bitcoin "lows were in" before "another 7,000 point fall"; (4) small caps "similar moves" to Micron's 100→240.

Re-entry / invalidation: on AI, "making any bets longer than five years when it comes to innovation... you're playing at risk"; "at some point two years into this we will have some artificial intelligence driven solution to power andor efficiency in a big way" — the thesis clock runs at two years for power/efficiency and five years for innovation. On Nvidia, the exit rule is conditional on "PE is not compressing and margins are actually going down", not on a price target.

La vuelta de tuerca: The guest is not defending AI because he ignores credit risks — he cites them (Coreweave CDS 40-45%) and endorses them ("the credit market is starting to get smart"). What he is saying sotto voce is that the margin compression does not come from a classic cyclical崩 but from "AI will force a recession without having a recession": permanent transfer to the top half of the K, AI capex holding nominal GDP near 4%, and S&P 500 margins "made all-time highs because of what's going on with Nvidia". The Bitcoin capitulation is not the data point — the data point is that the same voice admitting "most wrong I've been ever" is "tripled down this week" because, as he wrote on April 8th, "it feels the same... panic coming from everywhere". The real alpha is not the AI thesis; it is the asymmetry between what high-yield credit says (no stress) and what private credit/equity says (panic) — and the bet that dislocation closes to the upside in Q1 with Williams cutting and Trump naming a chair.


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