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this uh is the other side of the coin, I guess, to what you you do, but what do you think about somebody like S&P moving into this space? What does what does that mean um for for the for the ecosystem? >> Yeah. So, those guys have been making some moves, right? They invested in Kao as well earlier this week, I think, and now this announced acquisition of Open Zeppelin. We're really starting to see this trend, though, and just to throw in an elliptic one, you know, NASDAQ invested on our round earlier this year. we're seeing lots more of these traditional uh players really start to

We're really starting to see this trend, though, and just to throw in an elliptic one, you know, NASDAQ invested on our round earlier this year.

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