and stocks ended the year higher than they started. [laughter] >> So if you think of that, it just was like we pulled back the curtain like Wizard of Oz style and everyone's like, "Wait a minute. No matter what happens, if you keep buying stocks, you're going to make money." And it feels like that actually broke the market almost more than anything else. And that's why maybe interest rates like all of this stuff like the innovation thing is big >> but the psychology piece feels like it is a huge piece of it as well.
And that's why maybe interest rates like all of this stuff like the innovation thing is big >> but the psychology piece feels like it is a huge piece of it as well.